Friday, July 15, 2005

Three Letters

People email us here at TeachTheFacts.org rather regularly. There are times, for instance after the NPR story aired, when we are inundated with people who just love us and want to send us money. Then there are times, when the rightwing sites pick up the story and present us as demons, when we get a lot of hate mail, usually religious in nature, and usually not very well spelled. We get notified when someone signs our online petitions, and lately those have been ticking along like clockwork, every day there are new signatures.

Recently we received three letters I thought I'd write about.

RSS
The first letter was from a guy who complained that he couldn't get the RSS feed for this site. If you don't know what that is, don't worry. I use an RSS aggregator (SharpReader), and it helps me get through hundreds of web sites in a few minutes, to see what's new, what people are talking about, to keep track of changes in the culture wars. Anyway, it has bothered me since we started this site, that we couldn't make the RSS feed work right.

Now you will notice on the top right side of this page, a link that says "Syndicate this site (XML)." Yes, I am proud to say, with some help from a stranger out there on the Internet (here's his web page: Welcome to America), I was able to get it working. Now I'm happy.

CRC Plotting
The second thing. A guy with an email address that looks like random letters writes us and says:
Hi,

I don't even live in your state but I found your site through a series of links while researching. With reference to the CRC, I thought you might be interested in another page I found in Google's cache during my search. It appears to be from a now removed forum from January 2005. If you are already aware of this content, then please disregard.

Good luck in your efforts.

And he posts a link.

Wow. What a gold mine. He gives us a whole online discussion among the CRC's inner circle, hundreds of messages from January and February. I haven't read it all -- there's just too much, but you can see them plotting their lawsuit -- this is way back in January, remember how it was a "last resort?" You can see them complaining about me and this blog: as our Spanish-speaking friend writes: "jejeje."

Why, looky here. On January 18th, you have John Garza writing:
The lawfirm that just whipped the BOE due to its unconstitutional conduct against the young men of the "Good News Club" has agreed to help us in our case. We a putting together quite a team of lawyers. If you know of any kids who have been discriminated against for their viewpoint, or religious beliefs please let me know. The BOE has a poor batting record in Court trying to defend its actions...

A quick Google search reveals that Liberty Counsel represented the Good News Club in some lawsuits. So here we are, all the way back in the middle of January, conspiring with those out-of-town lawyers to sue the school district. The suit was filed in May, and they were s-o-o-o sorry it had to come to this, they really didn't want to, it was simply a last resort.

Liars.

Ooh, it's fun to search for mentions of teachthefacts -- isn't that terrible? It's like Googling your own name. But, man, it does appear that we were getting under their skin -- jejeje.

We will have many hours of entertainment reading this stuff. I'll report to you occasionally, I'm sure, some of the nuggets that can be found on the Internet.

Thanks, whoever-you-are, for sending us that link.

Are We Too Hard on People?
The third letter we got was from a nice lady who agrees with our position and wishes that we (I) were nicer about it. She said she is concerned about the tone of our blog postings. I replied to her, but I think a public statement is in order. This is a fairly difficult concept to convey, and I will probably be misunderstood, but let me give it a try.

Here in Montgomery County, Maryland, the school district proposed a new sex-ed curriculum. It talked about sexual orientation, and some people -- very, very few -- decided to pretend it was an affront to their values. The Presidential elections were being interpreted as a mandate for the religious right, and some of them made a move to capture the MCPS sex-ed curriculum.

These people started whining that it promoted homosexuality. They made up stuff about how it forced children to "declare their sexual identity at an early age." They said it discriminated against "ex-gays." They said it encouraged sexual behavior in young people. It undermined their religious values. Blah blah blah.

The people who started TeachTheFacts.org were not looking for an activist cause, we were just some parents who started seeing postings on the high-school message board and grew concerned. Myself, I would rather goof around with the computer or play catch with the kids than do this. But somebody had to stop these lunatics.

Here's the tough part. Look, the problem was not that the curriculum encouraged kids to turn gay, or that it instructed them in anal sex, or that it taught students that Baptists were intolerant. Those allegations were absurd, and anybody could see they were absurd -- the 8th and 10th grade curriculum outlines are linked on the righthand side of this page, you can see for yourself. Nobody in their right mind would really believe any of that stuff.

The problem was that a bunch of nuts were trying to gain control of what the school district would teach our kids.

This web site is not here just to make sure that kids in our county learn about sexual orientation in class. It's not really here to defend the curriculum, which was just fine, a health class, nothing you'd drop everything to go defend. I mean, of course, we address the issues that come up. This is all interesting, this stuff about gay people and condoms and everything, the culture wars and all that. But we wouldn't be here if there was just a new curriculum, any more than web sites spring up when there's a new math curriculum, or a new textbook in a biology class, or a new teacher is hired.

We are here to stand up for common sense, which is under attack in an otherwise sensible county. The MCPS school board is not promoting any "gay agenda." The MCPS school board does not want teenagers to become sexually promiscuous. The school board does not want to cause an epidemic of sexually-transmitted diseases. The school board has no intention of discriminating against "ex-gays" or any other kind of ex-people. These are silly accusations, and nobody believes them. They are a distraction, and are not "the issue" at all.

And the only way that I can think of to fight this is to take it head-on. Sometimes here at the blog we post research results and statistics showing that the curriculum was in fact correct about things. But sometimes we have to take the crazy things that the anti-curriculum squeaky-wheels are saying, and deconstruct them a little bit. Take 'em apart. Show exactly how the reasoning fails. It's not a personal thing, really, members of our group are friends with members of theirs. Parents from both side work together on extracurricular school activities (in those few cases where CRC members have kids in the public schools), and everybody gets along. I know, it gets a little ugly sometimes when you have to show how somebody's logic is simply wishful thinking. But it has to be done. You cannot treat this sort of thing with the same respect you would give to someone who is at least trying to make sense.

I'm sorry if it gets harsh sometimes, but we are going to stand up for common sense here, and that means refuting the irrationality, and you can't do that without mentioning the person who made the statement. It's nothing personal.

Thanks to all of you who write us and sign our petitions.

3 Comments:

Blogger andrear said...

I think what Johnny Garza meant when he told the BOE "we love you" was "We love your money".

It would be interesting if the CRC petitions actually showed how many parents of MCPS students signed them. Not that taxpayers don't have a right to sign or state their views but as they claim this is all about protecting their kids' education- I'd love to know how many supporters of their nonsense actually have kids who have taken even the current health class(of course opting out of human sexuality and family life first).

Andrea
Whose kids both took MCPS health - all of it!

July 15, 2005 12:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NOTIFICATIONS - MEETINGS Top
[38 Posts ] [LastPost: 02-09-2005 2:34 PM]

Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:02-09-2005 - 2:34 PM ]
Upcoming Town Hall Meeting
Could we put this info on the CRC website to advise other parents of this event?

Council to Host Quince Orchard/Darnestown Town Hall Meeting
A Town Hall Meeting for Quince Orchard and Darnestown will be hosted by the Montgomery County Council on Wednesday, February 16, at 8:00 p.m. with a reception preceding it at 7:30 p.m., at Thurgood Marshall Elementary School, 12260 McDonald Chapel Drive, Gaithersburg. According to County Council President Tom Perez, "This will be an excellent opportunity for people to have their say and put their questions directly to members of the County Council. We'll be discussing the county budget and taxes, education and transportation, development and public safety-and whatever else residents want to talk about." For more information call 240-777-7900 or visit the County's website at www.montgomerycountymd.gov.
[Date=02-09-2005] Name:S. Mendoza incite_emc@yahoo.com, [Msgid=778461]

Town Hall
Yes, we can let folks know about this. Tom Perez is a "down county, Takoma Park liberal" and it would be nice to hear how he responds, especially with the media there!!

Michelle

[Date=02-09-2005] Name:michelle turner mnturner@comcast.net, [Msgid=778632]


Msg Topic [No Replies]
tomorrow's meeting
Hello All,
The exec bd and all group leaders are invited to the second exec bd meeting, Thursday, Feb. 10 at 7:30 p.m.. Same location as last week.

If there is an item you would like discussed, please email it to me today so that I can get an agenda together and posted.

Michelle

[Date=02-09-2005] Name:michelle turner mnturner@comcast.net, [Msgid=778416]


Msg Topic [No Replies]
Leafleting at Metro
I would like the board to vote on starting a team to leaflet at the metro stops during rush hour. I think Metro must allow us to do this and it could also be an event for our friends at NPR (which they dearly desire). Would could hand out a one page leaflet with information, etc. A little shoe leather goes a long way. I volunteer to lead a group at Rockville, Shady Grove or Wheaton.
[Date=02-08-2005] Name:Johnny Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=777759]


Msg Topic [2 Replies Last Reply:01-28-2005 - 3:52 PM ]
FLHD meeting
I plan to attend the meeting, I have been there for the last 2. It would be great is someone else could come, so the committee will see some new faces. I will be leaving for Iceland to visit my mother for a few days, but will be back Wed. night so I can observe the really, really risky Fishback in action.

Steina

[Date=01-27-2005] Name:Steina Walter swalter86@verizon.net, [Msgid=771812]

`Thank you
I think parents are needed there. I would not be a threat since I was on the committee but maybe they would feel like they could be 'cocky' if I was there!!
[Date=01-28-2005] Name:retta rettab20@verizon.net, [Msgid=772222]

Need more CRC observers here
When is this FLHD CAC meeting and where?

Thanks...
[Date=01-27-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=771830]


Msg Topic [No Replies]
directions to Garza office
Go to our website www.garzanet.com and click on directions. On Rt 28 in Rockville, accross the street from Courthouse. 17 W. Jefferson St. Rockville, MD.
[Date=01-26-2005] Name:John Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=770718]


Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:01-27-2005 - 6:46 PM ]
Meeting time-Feb. 3
Exec. Bd and group leaders only will meet at 7:30 p.m. on February 3

Michelle Turner

[Date=01-25-2005] Name:michelle turner mnturner@comcast.net, [Msgid=770371]

Meeting
Will there be a parent at the Citizens Advi

July 24, 2005 1:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NOTIFICATIONS - MEETINGS Top
[38 Posts ] [LastPost: 02-09-2005 2:34 PM]

Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:02-09-2005 - 2:34 PM ]
Upcoming Town Hall Meeting
Could we put this info on the CRC website to advise other parents of this event?

Council to Host Quince Orchard/Darnestown Town Hall Meeting
A Town Hall Meeting for Quince Orchard and Darnestown will be hosted by the Montgomery County Council on Wednesday, February 16, at 8:00 p.m. with a reception preceding it at 7:30 p.m., at Thurgood Marshall Elementary School, 12260 McDonald Chapel Drive, Gaithersburg. According to County Council President Tom Perez, "This will be an excellent opportunity for people to have their say and put their questions directly to members of the County Council. We'll be discussing the county budget and taxes, education and transportation, development and public safety-and whatever else residents want to talk about." For more information call 240-777-7900 or visit the County's website at www.montgomerycountymd.gov.
[Date=02-09-2005] Name:S. Mendoza incite_emc@yahoo.com, [Msgid=778461]

Town Hall
Yes, we can let folks know about this. Tom Perez is a "down county, Takoma Park liberal" and it would be nice to hear how he responds, especially with the media there!!

Michelle

[Date=02-09-2005] Name:michelle turner mnturner@comcast.net, [Msgid=778632]


Msg Topic [No Replies]
tomorrow's meeting
Hello All,
The exec bd and all group leaders are invited to the second exec bd meeting, Thursday, Feb. 10 at 7:30 p.m.. Same location as last week.

If there is an item you would like discussed, please email it to me today so that I can get an agenda together and posted.

Michelle

[Date=02-09-2005] Name:michelle turner mnturner@comcast.net, [Msgid=778416]


Msg Topic [No Replies]
Leafleting at Metro
I would like the board to vote on starting a team to leaflet at the metro stops during rush hour. I think Metro must allow us to do this and it could also be an event for our friends at NPR (which they dearly desire). Would could hand out a one page leaflet with information, etc. A little shoe leather goes a long way. I volunteer to lead a group at Rockville, Shady Grove or Wheaton.
[Date=02-08-2005] Name:Johnny Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=777759]


Msg Topic [2 Replies Last Reply:01-28-2005 - 3:52 PM ]
FLHD meeting
I plan to attend the meeting, I have been there for the last 2. It would be great is someone else could come, so the committee will see some new faces. I will be leaving for Iceland to visit my mother for a few days, but will be back Wed. night so I can observe the really, really risky Fishback in action.

Steina

[Date=01-27-2005] Name:Steina Walter swalter86@verizon.net, [Msgid=771812]

`Thank you
I think parents are needed there. I would not be a threat since I was on the committee but maybe they would feel like they could be 'cocky' if I was there!!
[Date=01-28-2005] Name:retta rettab20@verizon.net, [Msgid=772222]

Need more CRC observers here
When is this FLHD CAC meeting and where?

Thanks...
[Date=01-27-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=771830]


Msg Topic [No Replies]
directions to Garza office
Go to our website www.garzanet.com and click on directions. On Rt 28 in Rockville, accross the street from Courthouse. 17 W. Jefferson St. Rockville, MD.
[Date=01-26-2005] Name:John Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=770718]


Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:01-27-2005 - 6:46 PM ]
Meeting time-Feb. 3
Exec. Bd and group leaders only will meet at 7:30 p.m. on February 3

Michelle Turner

[Date=01-25-2005] Name:michelle turner mnturner@comcast.net, [Msgid=770371]

Meeting
Will there be a parent at the Citizens Advisory Committee meeting Feb 3 at 7:30? I think having a parent there keeps "David" civil.
[Date=01-27-2005] Name:Retta rettab20@verizon.net, [Msgid=771740]


Msg Topic [3 Replies Last Reply:01-25-2005 - 9:31 PM ]
Feb. 3rd Exec bd meeting
Hello All,
Our meeting next week will be in John Garza's office.

17 W. Jefferson Street, Rockville. What I need now is to hear which time is best for most of you. 7 or 7:30 p.m.?

Michelle

[Date=01-25-2005] Name:Michelle Turner mnturner@comcast.net, [Msgid=770093]

It good for me
I'll be enroute back from a business meeting in Willamsburg, but should be in the area in plenty of time.

Steve
[Date=01-25-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=770564]

7:30 works best (nm)
No Message
[Date=01-25-2005] Name:Al Jackson abjackson@comcast.net, [Msgid=770325]

7:30 is better
Ellen and Tony Castellano
[Date=01-25-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=770138]


Msg Topic [No Replies]
Email to BOE
To all:

Tonight I sent an email blast on behalf of the CRC to each BOE member stressing our rational, responsible and moderate approach, outreach and goals. This email is intended to allay fears about the BOE meeting officially with the CRC and to voice our dismay at the false and malicious descriptions being communicated by some in the community about us and our goals.

I am also sending personal letters via mail to several individual BOE members with whom Michelle is trying to arrange one on one meetings.

Next up for the Media campaign is another press release mailing which goes into some of the erroneous facts and controversial content found in the new curriculum.

I also want to send out a press release on our petiton drive next week, so pass along updates to me and espeically any specific stories about how folks are responding to our petition. It would be good to get an approximate count of signatures after this weekend if possible.


[Date=01-20-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=767742]


Msg Topic [8 Replies Last Reply:01-23-2005 - 3:29 PM ]
Exec bd meeting
John, Steve, Ben, group leaders,

We need to have an exec bd meeting, soon. Are you available the evening of February 3.

Michelle

[Date=01-20-2005] Name:michelle turner mnturner@comcast.net, [Msgid=767303]

I Can Attend
Please advise on the time and place. Should you need assistance with finding a meeting place, I am here to help.

[Date=01-23-2005] Name:Samara Mendoza incite_emc@yahoo.com, [Msgid=769052]

Meetings
Michelle, isn't that the same night as the Citizens Advisory Meeting? Do you really want to miss that?
Retta
[Date=01-22-2005] Name:Retta rettab20@verizon.net, [Msgid=768633]

meeting
Hi. I am not really member of the executive board, so tell me if I can/should attend this meeting. I don't think you could have a more motivated individual,I have been in email contact with Whitman Principle re. the family planning, and he basicially told me he found out about the new curriculum same time the parents did. He did not think it unusual. The teacher who did not like the new curriculum did not want to sign my petition, and was a bit worried about his job, I asked him to contact CRC, gave web address in addition to my personal email, but so far I haven't heard, he said he was going to talk with a teacher name Sheila, did not know her last name, so this is unfortunately very vague, I plan to go back next Tue. to the soccerplex he might be there.
Steina Walter

[Date=01-21-2005] Name:Steina Walter swalter86@verizon.net, [Msgid=767863]

Yes on meeting
Yes, I can attend... details?


[Date=01-20-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=767730]

Yes
I will keep the date open.

Laura
[Date=01-20-2005] Name:Laura quigley5@msn.com, [Msgid=767439]

Meeting
I am avilable and offer my conf room in Rockville as a place. What time? I could order pizza or something like that.
[Date=01-20-2005] Name:John Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=767341]

Yes, we can come
Ellen and Tony Castellano
[Date=01-20-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=767329]

Yes
Michelle,

I am available on the 3rd.

Ben Patton
[Date=01-20-2005] Name:Ben Patton Ben@Patton.com, [Msgid=767324]


Msg Topic [No Replies]
Thank You for your input
We have recently received several very supportive messages and recommendations for the CRC to consider. These are great and we truly appreciate the input and insight.

In order to help catch everyone up who may have just now come onboard, I offer the following summary of what our primary focus and strategy is in the coming weeks. There was some concern about our being too involved in philosophy, moral and religious concerns. While these are indeed important elements that are present in our overall approach, they are by no means driving the CRC's actions.

As some have recommended, we are indeed concentrating our immeidiate focus on stopping the proposed changes to the curriculum. If you read the various documents on the web site, you will see that over the past several weeks we have highlighted the fundemental flaws in the process, the lack of bonefide factual data and the blatant discrimination demonstrated by the BOE and the CAC in trying to railroad this through without any genuine public review or comment. Our major attacks are targeted on the failed process and partisan politics used in shaping this change. Our first radio interview and call-in show on WAVA prmarily focused on this failed process and abuse of parential involvement and communication. We will continue to echo this in our upcoming broadcasts on WMAL, too.

Our 6 point objectives are aimed at a multi-facet campaign that will:
* define our desire to stop the implementation of the changes
* abolish the current CAC and reform a more representative and balanced group
* put the BOE on notice that the CRC is a force and voice that will continue to monitor BOE activities and drive for increased parental involvement in the sex edcuation process and related policies.

While the meeting last Saturday provided a voice for some who have just now joined in the fight, there have been many of us who toiled over the holidays to focus our enegery, decide what actions would provide maximum effect to achieve these goals and coordinate our collective actions to be sure we stay on target. This may not have been readily apparent in our brief opportunity to meet with newer members and interested parties. We have come a long way and are working to further our outreach and strengthen our base to accomplish these goals.

In addition, we have developed a set of follow on actions reflecting a long term strategy to keep the heat on the BOE and make sure that this type of partisan and politically motivated activity will not exist in our MCPS. Included in this are alternative tactics to be used, for example, should the BOE continue to move forward with the planned testing above our objections and focused energy to rally against that.

We greatly appreciate the energy and insight generated on recommended strategy and tactics. Please help us by applying some of that in working the petition and writing letters to the BOE, County and the media. Remember, though, if you are going to identify yourself as a CRC member, you letter or email should be in keeping with our mission and ethics. We are becoming successful in identifying ourselves as the truer reflection of the parents and the voice for moderation and respect in this county... firebrand comments, threats or ultimatums to any on the BOE will only hurt our cause in the end. This is not what the CRC is all about nor reflect our goals or mission statements.
[Date=01-20-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=767251]


Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:01-19-2005 - 3:41 PM ]
The Next Step
Although I'm not really a member of CRC (though I sympathize greatly with the cause), I did attend last Saturday's meeting to get a feel for the direction of the group and see if I might be able to assist in terms of input. So please take this for what it's worth...

In my opinion, this group should shift the short-term strategy to focus at least 80% of its energies to getting the Board of Ed to immediately cease and desist implementation - ONLY ON THE BASIS OF THE PROCEDURAL ARGUMENT (i.e., the BOE violated its own regulation(s) in rushing this through without the proper public, or school-community hearings).

This is already a done-deal. You're playing catch-up here and the most efficient way to get this issue back on the table is to demand that the BOE follow its own procedures.

That means specifically laying aside the other philosophical arguments - which we all love to make - until later.

Here's how it might work:
1. 80% of CRC energy: Through the group, the PTA's, the religious orgs, legal channels, and the media, demand that the BOE follow their own rules and put this back on the table.

2. 20% of CRC energy: Continue to recruit


3. After it's back on the table, then it's time to bring in the troops and the philosophical arguments. Any sort of public hearings will work in CRC's favor as the true opposition are really fringe groups and will marginalize themselves. While many in the county may be truly ambivalent or complacent, the sort of folks who are motivated enough to testify in favor of the curriculum will not paint a good contrast to the very reasonable, well-behaved, and tolerant members of the group.

4. If and when the curriculum is eliminated or changed for the better, that's when you move to change the composition of the Citizens Advisory Committee and begin to work on the other long-term goals of the group.

Bottom line for now: CRC's message = BOE needs to cease implementation, follow it's rules, and put this back on the table. Period.

That's a rough sketch of the idea. It's going to take a real focused and disciplined effort to get the BOE to put the issue back on the table. At this time other arguments will serve to distract from and sometimes hinder this effort.

Respectfully yours,
Jud Ashman
[Date=01-19-2005] Name:Jud Ashman judashman@aol.com, [Msgid=766701]

Good Observation
Thanks Jud... your recommendations have merit and we'll definitely consider these as we move forward.

If you have a specific game plan of any actions, activities or plans for this increased focus on stopping the BOE roll out of the new curriculum, please note these and pass back to us. I'll be glad to coordinate yours and others ideas related to this approach.

We'll keep this mind as we draft additional letters to the BOE and the media.

[Date=01-19-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=766793]


Msg Topic [4 Replies Last Reply:01-19-2005 - 7:49 PM ]
Meeting Idea
Visitors to mcpscurriculum are checking the meetings page frequently. Should we start talking about hosting a "Town Hall Meeting" where we invite the public and school officials (BOE members/Russ Henke) to meet and discuss the curriculum? I have no idea if they would even consider it, but it would be a media event, no doubt......
[Date=01-18-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=766433]

Reflections on my idea
Steve is right, we don't have the resources now, and we've got our petition drive to focus on in the next couple weeks. The public meeting is something we can talk about further down the road.
I do want to encourage everyone to actively participate in the petition drive. At this point I only have collections happening for sure at 15 churches this weekend. Is anyone else planning to collect signatures this weekend? Please email me asap so I can include you on the list serve message.
[Date=01-19-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=766942]

Concur... Caution
I agree with caution here... we need to proceed deliberately in this. We do not yet have a solid feel for who and how strongly any allies may be on our cause. We have not completed our petition and do not know what our numbers may be nor if we have as strong a backing as we may think we do. No politician is going to attend a town hall meeting that has the potential to be an embarrasment or poorly attended.

Also, our opposition is still entrenched more favorably with the media and the county establishment. We need to weaken if not break these ties before we can mount a head to head confrontation in the public.

Let's not dilute our resources just now with an additional requirement that will further tax our leadership and shift focus. (It appears that just about a half dozen or so of the CRC members are doing approximately 80% of the work... this needs to change and will I hope with new blood coming in with increasing the media attention and contacts along with a solid petition drive.) I think the town hall or some appropriate public rally will be in the offering for the future, but we need to gather more volunteers and gain allies in the county and on the BOE before we try this.

If we are successful in stopping the test and eval of the video and curriculum change, we would have cause to celebrate (modestly but not to gloat, though) at that time. This would be the time then to consider a public rally.

We do not yet have an official strategic plan that would include such activities. First things first... every public action must be linked to an end game objective for maximum effect.

Right now we need to expand and get out the word and check to see if the numbers and responses are supportive of grander schemes and actions.
[Date=01-19-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=766789]

town hall meeting
I very much would like to have a town hall meeting. I am talking with the Governor's office to see if he will come and speak, if not we need a celebrity or politician, even from the national scene. A keynote speaker will help us attract people and it becomes a media event. If the opposition shows up, we ignore them. By using microphones, upbeat music we can ignore them. They look like fools in the media. Perhaps we ask for police protection from them. (Hey there are a lot of Christians in the NFL maybe we can get some of those guys to be our security). If anyone has any contact with a media personality (Chris Core) we should try and get she/he on board to speak and appear.
[Date=01-19-2005] Name:John Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=766549]

good idea, but let's be cautious...
Ellen, I like your idea however I would caution that we would attract all of our opponents who would love an opportunity to engage us in a public argument. Perhaps if we could find a group to sponsor and run the town hall meeting (like a church or community group), it might be easier to maintain order and decorum.
[Date=01-19-2005] Name:Laura quigley5@msn.com, [Msgid=766498]


Msg Topic [5 Replies Last Reply:01-18-2005 - 6:35 AM ]
Call the Gazette today!
***Note: I also posted this under General Comments but was afraid it would not be noticed in that category.

I just left a message with Lloyd Batzler, editor of the Gazette - (301) 948-3120 - and suggest you do the same.

Background:
The Gazette absolutely trashed the CRC in last Wednesday's print edition with the story, "Cox avoids Germantown meeting after receiving threats." link: http://www.gazette.net/200502/poolesville/news/254334-1.html

They since revised the story, but ONLY on the online Gazette... not (yet) in print. See link: http://www.gazette.net/200502/germantown/news/254275-1.html

By trashing CRC, the Gazette owes you guys free space. This is an opportunity to:
a. Correct the record on the Cox incident
b. To get your POSITIVE message out

But you need to call and demand it. Monday is usually the filing deadline, so I'd suggest flooding their phone lines ASAP.

Good luck,
Jud Ashman

[Date=01-17-2005] Name:Jud Ashman judashman@aol.com, [Msgid=765390]

Gazette Article
I also heard from the writer working this article who asked officially for my input from the CRC. I had already talked with Ellen and told her to submit to the Gazette for us as I was not going to be back to my PC until late Monday evening. Ellen has the facts about the misrepresentation and was familiar with Jud's actions. (Thanks Jud for forcing the issue, too, and Jeannie for weighing in with them.)

Late last night I also sent an email to the writer along with some information on our real positions (which Ellen supplied as well) and statements on our true motives, characterizations and diversity. I think this will help us with the rest of BOE. I will also be sending letters to each member along the same lines to further emphasize this point.

Let's see what they do with the real facts this time.
[Date=01-18-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=765896]

I also spoke to the writer
When I called the Gazette, I reached the writer, who asked if I was from CRC. I said I hoped for a thorough explanation, since our name was dragged through the mud with the previous article. She defended it somewhat, saying that there were denials printed in last week's article. (But she put us on the defensive for a lie, and denials are usually not that convincing to the uninformed, anyway.) She asked what I'd like to say, so I said something like, 'CRC does not wish ill to anyone. We only want to protect the children from information they are not yet ready to manage, and from misinformation, and we want the BOE to follow its own procedures, and allow us to participate in them.'

[Date=01-17-2005] Name:Jeanne G. Tondo jgtondo@comcast.net, [Msgid=765682]

I spoke to the writer
Jim Eppard, who is Jackie Mah's editor called me and wanted to wrap this up today, and since Steve didn't have time to call her back, he asked me to. I explained to her that we were upset that speculations on the part of the GCA board member, Sheila Myers on Sharon Cox feeling threatened by posts on the recall, turned into a very damaging headline for us. And though she (Jackie) doesn't write the headlines, she needed to try to do some damage control in her article this week correcting last week's aritcle that was in 4 editions. I reiterated to her our committment to keep this discussion civil and avoid name calling or accusations. I also explained the nature of the posts that were misinterpreted and divulged the fact that the archived messages have been removed to prevent further misinterpretations. We'll see what actually hits the paper on Wed.
I tried to keep it friendly and didn't blast her for her obvious mistake in not checking on resources.
[Date=01-17-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=765582]

I just spoke with the Gazette
The editor in charge of the story (whose name I unfortunately forgot - sorry!) just called me back. He blamed the mistake on the quoted source from the GCA. "Did you guys not bother to corroborate that statement?" I demanded, "Is it the policy of the Gazette not to fact check public accusations?"

He said that there would be a corrective story running in the same place in Wednesday's Gazette. I suggested that the Gazette owes the CRC some space. "What do you think they would say?" he asked, clearly implying that it wouldn't be newsworthy.

"You guys just trashed them," I replied, "and you need to give them a chance to set the record straight and, furthermore, to explain what it is that they do stand for."

It ended up that he said they would do a story that gave both sides a chance to say their piece. I asked to name the sides and he replied; Ms. Cox and the CRC.

So hopefully he's going to contact CRC for a statement. I certainly suggest crafting a statement that, in a very positive manner, both dismisses that threat allegations while explaining what CRC really is.

But I wouldn't leave it in his court. Everyone should give a call today to the main desk - which is the number I provided before - and just ask for the editor in charge of the 'Cox threat' story.

Good luck,
Jud Ashman
[Date=01-17-2005] Name:Jud Ashman judashman@aol.com, [Msgid=765557]

I called Georgia MacDonald
Since I've spoken to her before about our group, I called and left a message indicating that the damage done by the article on pg 4 of last week's Gazette might begin to be repaired by a printed correction like the the that appeared online. If I hear back, I'll post.
[Date=01-17-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=765462]


MINUTES Top (0 Posts)

MEDIA Top
[30 Posts ] [LastPost: 02-09-2005 9:30 AM]

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Michael Graham WMAL
He will cover the CAC student member later this morning, and has already launched a full scale assult on mcps about it.
[Date=02-09-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=778402]


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Rebroadcasts of BOE Mtng
The schedule for the rebroadcasts are today, Wed 2/9 at 10am and 9pm, and then this Sat/Sun at 1pm


[Date=02-09-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=778382]


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When speaking with the media
Just a reminder if you find yourself speaking with press. Please do not identify Tony and I as webmasters. Thanks. (I need to think of a job description in case I'm asked!!)
[Date=02-07-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=777555]


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WTimes to Publish Letter in the next few Days!
The Washington Times will publish our letter to the Editor with re: to J. Wards 1/26 column and signed by 2 former and 2 present members of the Citizens Advisory Comm. Look for it.
Retta
[Date=02-07-2005] Name:Retta rettab20@verizon.net, [Msgid=777320]


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Reply to FRC on Fairfax County
I sent the following message from the CRC to the FRC showing our solidarity with our neighbors across the Potomac as they face a similar battle with the secular homosexual activists:

"RE: Other Issues
Subject: The CRC Supports Fairfax County Parents
Inquiry: Tony,
Thanks for the excellent post on the furor unleased by Mr. Hunt in neighboring Fairfax County. As you know, parents here in Montgomery County are fighting the same battle caused by one of our citizens' advisory committees persuading our BOE to likewise endorse a pro-homosexual agenda in the sex ed and family health curriculum. We deplore the ensuing pain caused by the angry attacks on Mr. Hunt. We too have been the victims of similar hateful and demonizing attacks that are now being leveled at Mr. Hunt. Unfortunately, this type of response is the current mode of operations by the liberal advocacy groups whenever concerned parents and taxpayers take exception to our tax dollars being used to promote blatantly biased information and opinions masked as "scientific facts" in attempts to advance a political or social agenda.

Discrimination does not have to be of intentional design to exist in reality. We should have learned this from the Civil Rights struggle. Parents of faith and religious conviction are being discriminated against by these actions and positions being taken by the BOE.

We stand in solidarity with our next door neighbors in Fairfax County and encourage them to not give up the fight.

Steve Fisher CRC Media and PR Group Leader"


The FRC link and article is found at: http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU05B04
[Date=02-04-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=776084]


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interesting op-ed columns Sunday
There were 2 op-ed columns I thought were very thought provoking in yesterday's papers:

In the Washington Post, Ruth Marcus writes a column entitled "Ready to throw in the Sponge?". Despite a few zingers she throws at religious conservatives, she attempts to understand what people are concerned about with the 'culture war' (specifically the homosexual agenda). Here is the link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45992-2005Jan28.html

Also on Sunday in the Washington Times, an editorial by Thomas Sowell was excellent:

http://washtimes.com/commentary/20050129-095132-9621r.htm

Laura

[Date=01-31-2005] Name:Laura quigley5@msn.com, [Msgid=773423]


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How to Become a Blogger/Blogging Guidelines

Blog Information

Our CRC blog is www.mcpscurriculum.com/blog/

To become a CRC Blogger:

Email Jamie McDonald (jamiedmcdonald@earthlink.net). He will email you an invitation to Blog that you will need to respond to. You will need a blogger.com account to post. The email message you will receive provides a link to accept the invitation and also provides the following options:

“If you already have a Blogger account, you will be asked to either accept or decline this invitation.

If you do not have a Blogger account, you can create one for free in less than a minute. Just click the invite link and press the ‘Create an Account’ button.”

So if you don’t have a Blogger account, you can create one.

Each time you want to post, you go to blogger.com and login. After you log in you will be taken to the CRC blog page and can start creating posts. There is a ‘help’ option in the top right corner of the page. You can save your posts as a draft, and after posting you can edit and delete your posts latter.

Blog Posting Guidelines

Any related subject matter is relevant. It could be a comment or synopsis of all our documents, or current (or not so current) events of similar circumstances in other communities, or your worldview of what’s happening, etc.

Clearly we do not want to appear harsh, rude, insulting, etc. So no name calling and the like. However ‘technical descriptions’ of the opposition are OK, like, “they’re more phobic about the truth than they we are”, etc.

If you think something is questionable, just post it on our CRC Staff site first, and your sure to receive comments!

Honestly, I really don’t think any of this guideline information is necessary to say. But we need to keep in mind that whatever is posted will be replicated many times all over the place and if it’s interpretable in a way that can even remotely possibly hurt our cause rather than help, well, we want to prevent that.


[Date=01-28-2005] Name:TonyC ajcnet100@yahoo.com, [Msgid=772341]


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WAVA broadcast tonight 1/28
WAVA rebroadcast Steve and Retta's interview with Don Kroah tonight from 6-7pm. It was great to hear it again. I got the impression that Don might add new info, but he didn't. Does anyone know if they are using the 30 sec radio spot about the petition drive?
[Date=01-28-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=772320]


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It's wonderful!
Jamie, excellent, just fabulous. This is going to be a great way to get our message out!

--Laura
[Date=01-28-2005] Name:Laura quigley5@msn.com, [Msgid=772291]


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Blog is UP for your review!
Jamie has created the CRC blog for our review (Thanks Jamie!). It can be viewed at
www.mcpscurriculum.com/blog/

Once we have commented on it we will place links to it on the CRC homepage, Google, Yahoo, etc., to drive traffic there. Also we are looking for some dedicated bloggers to regularly post to it so at a minimum it has a new post every day (this is really important). I have asked Jamie to consider some alternate layout templates as well, there are many choices with that.

If you want to be a blogger indicate your interest and Jamie will need to send you an invitation.

NOTE: we will be developing guidelines for posts so it's not a free for all. Not that anyone would do anything odd, etc. But I for one have been up late at night and felt like saying #$%@)$%^@$)~!@@%! So we think guidelines might be a good idea.

THANKS TO ALL YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB!!!!


[Date=01-28-2005] Name:TonyC ajcnet100@yahoo.com, [Msgid=772272]


Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:01-20-2005 - 7:06 PM ]
WAVA is ready to pitch in
Had a great lunch with Tom Moyer of WAVA. They are ready to feature us on their station (Don Kroah, etc.) and do the PSA Tony produced. Tom also gave me a personal check for our fundraising. He wants Steve to attend a staff meeting or conf call as their people have a lot of contact with the community, pastors, etc. We can use their people at grassroots level as well as on air. He feels Roscoe Bartlett, (Congressman N. Montg. County and Fred. Co.) will get involved and I can get his private number to reach out. He said there was a table at this Church on Sunday with the petition and people were signing, etc.
[Date=01-20-2005] Name:John Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=767517]

This is great John!
Thanks John, this is a good word of encouragement for us all. When did WAVA say they would air the radio spot?
[Date=01-20-2005] Name:TonyC ajcnet100@yahoo.com, [Msgid=767597]


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Letter to the editor of the Times
Here is my letter to the Times editor. He said he'll publish it. I spoke with 2 editors down there, and there haven't been any recent letters from anyone on this topic. If we write letters, we should reference a recent article even if it's not directly linked to mcps, eg - abstinence education, homosexuality, etc that shows up and can be used as a platform to launch our letter. This gives a letter the best chance to get published. Of course if there is an article about mcps curriculum in the paper, of course they'd like some letters. Thank you Jamie for helping me write this. Can someone who reads the Post work on a letter?

Montgomery County Board of Education: Trying to Pull One Over on Parents?

The Montgomery County Board of Education has bypassed several of its own policies (which explicitly require the Board to inform parents of changes to the sex-ed curriculum and solicit public reaction to those changes) and rolled out the new curriculum and approved it for piloting on the same day, November 9, 2004. Parents are still reeling from this brazen decision and are wondering how to insert themselves into a tightly controlled and manipulated process that has left them out of the loop.
The Board also plans to exclude parents from evaluation of the pilot program, relying solely on teacher and student feedback before final approval for county-wide use. Keep in mind that this new curriculum includes a highly controversial presentation of homosexuality and sexual variations. We parents pay a large portion of the taxes that fund the schools and their $1.7 billion budget and, according to the Board’s policy on Citizen Review of Curricular and Instructional Materials, have the right to voice our “reaction to curriculum documents dealing with sensitive topics.” Parents are justly furious over this new curriculum that the Board is forcing on the schools with no regard for their own procedures.
Ellen Castellano
Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum

[Date=01-18-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=766113]


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Someone should be concentrating on a Steve Abrams strategy
Steve Abrams has said publicly that he will watch the piloting of the new curriculum to see how it goes and that he does not want there to be "advocacy" for homosexuality. The pro-curriculum folks will say that nothing in the curriculum revisions "advocates" homosexuality. And they will say that the revisions simply lay out the facts, as understood by the mainstream scientific/medical community (BUNK!). And that MCPS has capable Health Ed teachers, and they will surely handle the revisions as they are 'intended'.

Once the piloting is completed, Steve Abrams said he would decide. But he is politically astute, and would want to get a sense of whether the Board's decision was out of the County mainstream (which it is).

Someone, or a group, needs to be strategizing an effort to win him over.
[Date=01-16-2005] Name:TonyC ajcnet100@yahoo.com, [Msgid=765210]


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He can help write/edit
Jamie McDonald has offered to help us by reviewing/editing documents or letters. Here is his email address: jamiedmcdonald@earthlink.net
He will probably come to Saturday's meeting, but has already begun to help - take advantage of him, he's quick with turnaround.
[Date=01-14-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=764171]

All better
The bandage has come off, so send me your editing requests.
[Date=01-25-2005] Name:Jamie McDonald jamiedmcdonald@earthlink.net, [Msgid=770292]

Happy to help
I'm glad to help (and it was good to meet several of you Saturday), but I've injured my hand and can't do much typing. (I;m wearing out my backspace key even now.) I should be up to speed by Thursday.

FYI, if you need me to edit something ASAP between Thursday COB and Monday morning, call me at 301-253-0068. My lovely wife, Jeannine, is an accomplished editor as well (totustuus3@earthlink.net) although she does not have as much media experience.
[Date=01-18-2005] Name:Jamie McDonald jamiedmcdonald@earthlink.net, [Msgid=766002]


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Response to Gazette
You know, from my reading of the article, it was so very vague that these "threats" could have been anything from anyone. I wouldn't jump to assume it was truly someone opposed to the curriculum --
maybe someone supporting the curriculum threatened that Cox would lose their support! (ha, ha)

Certainly, that suggestion of a phone call from Michelle to Sharon Cox is a good one. And I would be prepared with a very short statement to the effect that CRC opposes intimidation or violence in any form. Period. You know, "CRC is very sorry to hear that Ms. Cox received threats and that this prohibited her from participating in a community forum to discuss the divisive curriculum revisions. We support open and free discussion and completely condemn the use of threats, intimidation and violence in any form."

A little documentation of the truly nasty and incorrect things being blogged about CRC is valuable to have on hand (for anyone who has the stomach to compile it), although I'd be reticent about bringing it out. Still, it is nice to have a few pithy quotes to let slip when necessary. Not just now, maybe later.

Stacie

[Date=01-14-2005] Name:Stacie Giles fsgiles@cavtel.net, [Msgid=764087]


Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:01-13-2005 - 1:48 PM ]
Comments on Press Release 3
Here is my email to Steve about Press Release 3

Steve,

My sense about Press Release 3 is that it is much too conciliatory and apologetic in tone. It seems to justify the false characterizations and slander that has been directed against us. To some degree anger has been an appropriate response given the situation, and none of those in leadership in this effort have been irrationally angry or disrespectful. It is natural to expect that on an open web forum some bloggers would be, but that doesn't reflect on us. Also we don't want to seem to blame or accuse those who are rightly furious about the whole thing.

I would recommend a major rewrite, where we don't sound like we're backpedaling. If we mention any change in approach, I think it should be only that we recognized that trying to recall the School Board was not the most effective strategy. I do think we should tout CRC as a model of civil discourse, but not by contrasting it with our earlier approach - instead contrast it with our opponents.

Mary

[Date=01-13-2005] Name:Mary Healy maryhealy@ix.netcom.com, [Msgid=763493]

CIVIL - NOT CONCILLIATORY
I agree Mary. There is a place for focused anger here. Lets not forget that this "quasi" elected board, immediately after the nationwide election which trounced the homosexual agenda, instituted a profoundly pro-gay curriculum. What they did was, and still is, outrageous.

This board is NOT going to recant anything because of "supplicant" appeals to listen to our position. The only thing that is going to get their complete attention is:

1. Continuing outrage streaming in to their castle headquarters
2. John Garza proceeding immediatley with his lawsuit. (Lawsuits tend to get peoples attention - merit or no merit because it forces them to deal with their legal team on a continuing basis)
3. 50,000 plus signatures between the paper petition and the on-line petition.
4. Tabulation of all the outrageous things said about us and this issue, and posted on both web sites.
5. Massive email campaign to inform and INFLAME.

In other words, aggressive tactics.

[Date=01-13-2005] Name:ADMINISTRATOR support@recallmontgomeryschoolboard.com, [Msgid=763679]


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Gazette article 1/12/05 Gaithersburg edition
Here's the full story from the online paper, but if you REALLY want to enjoy it you must go the the teach the facts.org website and see how they twist everything. It is there that you will read what we are really up against.

--Laura




School board
member was going to discuss sex ed curriculum

Members of the Board of Education canceled their appearance at Monday's Germantown Citizens Association meeting on the proposed sex education curriculum after receiving threats and slanderous comments on an anti-curriculum Web site.

"The postings started having some direct threats to school board members," GCA board member Sheila Myers said. "Evidently Sharon [Cox] got some very specific ones. ... She became concerned about coming into a public meeting" where someone might threaten her physically.

"Prior to [the postings] she had said 'yes' on coming," Myers said. "She seemed very open minded about having that discussion on a community forum."

Cox and fellow school board member Patricia O'Neill were originally invited to attend. Cox and O'Neill could not be reached Tuesday for comment.

The site on which the comments were posted, www.recallmontgomeryschoolboard.com, is monitored by a Damascus-based group called Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum. CRC members who attended the meeting denied that anyone from their group posted the comments or threats.

"We're just moms," member Michelle Turner of Kensington said. Other members speculated that someone outside their group posted the comments on their site adding to CRC's already negative image, they said.

Group members have been called "hateful, fearful and homophobic," none of which are true, Gaithersburg resident Laura Quigley said.

The group is not a bunch of "religious zealots," Quigley said. And she fears that more name-calling and misunderstanding will "make a tear in the fabric of our school community," she said.

The curriculum includes an eight-minute video that features a young woman discussing how condoms can reduce the risk of contracting sexually transmitted diseases or becoming pregnant. She also demonstrates the proper way to put on a condom, using a cucumber. It also discusses "sexual variations," including homosexuality, which up until now teachers were not allowed to bring up as a topic for discussion -- only address specific questions from students.

In addition to their belief that the school's proposed curriculum veers away from "traditional values," CRC members also believe the Board of Education did not follow the proper procedures for submitting a new curriculum.

Members compared the treatment of the sex ed curriculum to the school board's treatment of the grading and reporting policy, which has received a lot of public exposure, they said.

"[The curriculum] has not been given the time and attention it should have been, even compared to their own policy," CRC member Tom Reinheimer said.

CRC members said they are asking that the school board delay the pilot of the curriculum until a public hearing has been held and enough community input has been gathered.

The GCA will draft a letter to the board vocalizing Germantown residents' opposition to the curriculum, board member Alice Gordon said.

However, because the GCA must remain impartial, she said the letter would present both sides of the issue.

"There's no way that we can choose sides, we have to remain open-minded," Gordon said.

[Date=01-12-2005] Name:Laura quigley5@msn.com, [Msgid=763129]


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Good luck Steve!
Steve, good luck and God bless you as you go on the radio tonight. We're couting on you! (no pressure!)

--Laura
[Date=01-12-2005] Name:Laura quigley5@msn.com, [Msgid=763124]


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FYI - teach the facts
FYI -- the Yahoo message board that the infamous 'teachthefacts' people have set up at groups.yahoo.com/group/teachthefacts/ has 37 members as of this morning with 15 of those members added in the past week. This is a "closed" message board in that you must apply to the administrator for membership. (I have not done this yet -- but frankly, I do not think they would accept me.)

Laura

[Date=01-09-2005] Name:Laura quigley5@msn.com, [Msgid=761510]


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First Media Press Released
We sent out our first media press release tonight to 10 different organizations and media outlets. More to follow tomorrow. The press release will be posted on the web site soon.

The folks getting this tonight and encouraging them to go to our web site (mcpscurriculum.com) for more info, etc:

George Will at the Washington Post
Charles Krauthhammer at the Washington Post
Jon Ward at the Washington Times
Georgia MacDonald at the Gazette
Susan Gibbs at the ADW
Chris Core at WMAL
Don Krough at WAVA
Michael Graham at WMAL
Bob Knight at CWA
Peter Frigg at FRC

Steve
[Date=01-06-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=760323]

News releases
Thanks, Steve, for sending out the news releases.
BTW, it's Peter Sprigg of FRC.
EStella
[Date=01-20-2005] Name:Estella pfox_exgays@hotmail.com, [Msgid=767405]


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Sample 30 sec Radio Spot
Attached is a demo 30 sec radio spot as sample of what can be produced.
[Date=01-06-2005] Name:TonyC ajcnet100@yahoo.com, [Msgid=760265]
Attached File "30_sec_radio_spot_demo_1a~mp3.zip" - size 467696 Click Here To Download

I say go ahead
Of course I'm biased about the spot since it's Tony work, but if there's no reason not to air it, give them the OK. Does anyone have a reason not to utilize this radio message?
[Date=01-20-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=767700]

radio spot
All I need is to give him the go ahead. Should we use this resource now? Unless I hear different by Friday evening I will ask him to let em go. I will try and find out when they will run. Don K also wants SF back on when we are ready. WAVA is very much on board. BTW many of my friends call me Johnny. My beautiful daughter just came in the room so I am off for the night.
[Date=01-20-2005] Name:John (Johnny) Garza jgarza@garznet.com, [Msgid=767653]

Radio Spot Posted
FYI - This spot has been posted at mcpscurriculum.com
[Date=01-11-2005] Name:TonyC ajcnet100@yahoo.com, [Msgid=762698]

Good Radio Spot
Tony,

This is very good. How would one go about getting this aired? I will mention it to WAVA and WMAL to see if they will air it. Who would I talk with about getting this on the air elsewhere? Are there certain requirements or protocols?

Thanks...
[Date=01-11-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=762354]


LEGISLATIVE-POLITICAL Top
[2 Posts ] [LastPost: 02-02-2005 1:25 PM]

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Legislative meeting recap
Pam Wong organized an excellent meeting for the leg. team this past Monday. We met w/experts in the area we are all embarking upon. We met w/reps. from Concerned Woman for America, Assn. of MD Families and another MD activist on these issues. The two major action items that resulted from the meeting: 1) effectiveness of filing a stay/injunction; and 2) following the lead of our friends in Cinn. OH, CCV by writing a "liability" letter to the School Board and Superintendent. The liability letter is something we can do right now. Please see http://www.ccv.org/Legal Liability of Homosexuality Education.htm.

The Liability Letter would question the school board/educators responsiblity to protect our children. Leaving information out of the curriculum that deal directly w/the health consequences associated w/the activity they are advocating. This letter is not only sent to the "powers that be" but it's also leaked to the press. The effect of the letter, which must be answered, highlights the fact the school board is not protecting their students.

At stay or injunction would be filed to go right at the heart of the School Board's violation of it's own "due process" policy.

Additionally, we were encouraged to ask a MD House of Delegate Member or a Member of the MD state senate to ask State Legislative Counsel to do some research in the area of parental rights w/regard to school board actions related to what's being taught to our children. We need a more thorough look at the code to better understand what rights we have as parents.

I hope this information helps.
[Date=01-23-2005] Name:Al Jackson abjackson@comcast.net, [Msgid=769255]

Wow, an excellent idea
Imagine the impact if we could only get the curriculum to acknowledge the devastating impacts of anal "sex" on the body. Now if we could get that AND the rate of HIV/AIDS, domestic abuse, suicide, etc.
[Date=02-02-2005] Name:Jamie shralp@mindspring.com, [Msgid=774864]


BIOs Top
[11 Posts ] [LastPost: 01-11-2005 2:57 PM]

Msg Topic [3 Replies Last Reply:01-11-2005 - 2:57 PM ]
PLACE BIOS HERE!
PLEASE POST, IN THE BODY OF THE POST, A SHORT BIOGRAPHY.
Name:john obrien support@recallmontgomeryschoolboard.com, [Msgid=752581] *

Laura Quigley
I am married to my husband Daniel and we have three children. Our oldest daughter is a freshman at Loyola College, our son is a junior at GHS and our youngest daughter is in 6th grade at GMS. We have lived in Gaithersburg for 11 years, having moved here from Moorestown, NJ. I was born and raised in South Jersey and graduated in 1981 from Glassboro State College (now Rowan Univ.) with a business degree. Daniel is originally from Long Island, and graduated from Allentown College of St Francis DeSales (now DeSales University) in 1980. We are both life-long and devoted Catholics and are members of St Rose of Lima in Gaithersburg. Every member of our family is active in the parish in one way or another. Dan has been a home builder all of his life. After being a stay at home mom for many years and then a manager at Borders Books and Music, for 8 years now I have been running my own business from home, a building permit service that serves builders here in Montgomery County. This past election season was the first time I became actively involved in politics, working for the re-election of George W. Bush. My self-made “Catholics for Bush” window sticker could be seen tooling all around Montgomery County. However, I will never take another BOE election lightly as long as I live.
[Date=01-11-2005] Name:Laura Quigley quigley5@msn.com, [Msgid=762506]

Steve Fisher Bio
Pattie and I have lived in Montgomery County since 1977 when I moved here after 5 years active duty in the Marine Corps. Pattie has lived in Montgomery County since 1954 and with our two children, bought the house in which she grew up from her father, who now lives with us as well here in Bethesda. Our children attended MCPS each K through 5 --- so we have had over 12 years experience as MCPS parents and volunteers. Collectively, our family has been paying taxes to Montgomery County for over 50 years.

I was a Marine helicopter pilot and senior Pentagon staff officer with over 30 years active and Reserve duty experience. I am a survivor of the Pentagon attack on 9-11, having been in the Pentagon that day on Reserve duty orders. I was recalled to full time active duty the next day. During the ensuing Operation Noble Eagle and Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan invasion) I was a senior briefing officer to the Secretary and other top civilian executives, generals and admirals --- providing daily briefings on the Global War on Terrorism. Prior to my mandatory retirement in July 2002, I was part of a team working on details for the upcoming Iraqi Freedom invasion plans.

I am a Southern Baptist native of Atlanta Georgia and my wife is Catholic. We have raised our children as Catholic and they have attended Catholic middle and high schools (Mater Dei and Gonzaga for my son; Holy Child for my daughter.) My son is a freshman at Villanova. My family is a member of Little Flower Parish and active in Catholic charities as well as First Baptist Church of Alexandria, where I also taught Sunday School for over six years. I, my wife and father-in-law are very active volunteers at Holy Child. Needless to say, we truly are a very ecumenical family!

I attended Georgia Tech and then received an appointment to the Naval Academy, graduating with a degree in Mechanical Engineering. I was a lay student minister at the Naval Academy and an active member of the Fellowship of Christian Athletes there. I played varsity football at Annapois and was All-Met Scholastic as a high school football player in Atlanta. I also have a Masters degree from the University of Maryland. I am of Native American ancestry being a Cherokee and Osage descendant. My mother and five brothers and sisters all live in the Atlanta metro area.

Considering the issues ahead, I also have a personal involvement in this challenge to dispell the stereotype of the religious when it comes to homosexuality. I have a homosexual aunt and uncle. They are cherished members of our family, espcially my uncle whose life long partner recently passed away. My bother then opened up his home to my uncle (who is now 70) so that he would not have to live by himself. I and my family are very strong Southern Baptists, but epitomize our faith's creed in that we truly do love the sinner, but despise the sin.

I retired from the FAA in 2000 and am currently employed by Northrop Grumman Corp. (the largest employer in Maryland) as an executive account manager.
[Date=12-19-2004] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=753689]

Mary Healy bio
I grew up in New York and Connecticut, attended both public and parochial schools, graduated from Notre Dame in 1986 and received a doctorate in biblical theology at the Gregorian University in Rome in 2000. I've taught 5th grade, junior high, high school and graduate school, and often work with kids in our youth group. I'm currently serving as the Council Chair of Mother of God Community in Gaithersburg and adjunct professor of Scripture at the Notre Dame Graduate School in Alexandria. My book Men and Women Are from Eden: A Study Guide to Pope John Paul II’s Theology of the Body is scheduled to come out next summer.
[Date=12-17-2004] Name:Mary Healy maryhealy@ix.netcom.com, [Msgid=753166]


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Bio - Theresa Rickman
I am married with three children, one at Holy Cross and two at North Chevy Chase (I transferred them out of Holy Redeemer last year after a comparison of the curriculums which clearly indicated NCC was educationally superior). I was raised Catholic, I am parishoner of and contribute to Holy Redeemer Church, however I have to admit that my family attends church sporadically. My husband is an atheist and he is also strongly opposed to the new curriculum.

I have always been a full-time working mom, and of that dual income, the government helps itself to 65% of the second professional salary. My employment has been with Lynuxwork for the past 7 years, where I am a Federal Business Manager. I was a Girl Scout troop leader for 3 years at Holy Redeemer School.

I graduated from Vanderbilt University in 1985 with a double major in Mechanical Engineering and Computer Science.
[Date=01-08-2005] Name:Theresa Rickman theresa.rickman@recallmontgomeryschoolboard.com, [Msgid=761235]


Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:12-19-2004 - 9:09 AM ]
Jeannie Tondo Bio
Full-time homemaker for four young people: son, 10th grader at Watkins Mill High School; daughter, Freshman at Villa Julie College in Baltimore; daughter, Junior at the Shady Grove campus of UMES, and son, Senior at Catholic University. Happily married to Dominic Tondo, of the CRC member Media group.
Teach Spanish part-time to K-8 at a Catholic school (MOG), and 7th grade religious education at St. John Neumann Church, Gaithersurg.
Worked 13 years at World Bank in economic forecasting, contributing to field missions and economic publications, esp for Middle East, Africa, & Central America. Fairly fluent Spanish.
Education: MA Economics, GWU 1986; BA Int'l Rel & Econ, AU 1977. Fall 1976 Univ of the Andes, Bogota, Colombia.
[Date=12-17-2004] Name:Jeanne G. Tondo jgtondo@comcast.net, [Msgid=753144]

Help with our Hispanic Outreach
Jeannie,

Great Bio! Can you and Dominic help in our Hispanic outreach and letters, translating them into Spanish? Also, any other cultural awareness/hints you can offer me in my spokesperson role would be greatly appreciated, too. Mucho Gracias!
[Date=12-19-2004] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=753691]


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Ellen and Tony Castellano
Tony and I have been married 16 years and have 7 kids, 2 - 9th graders at Watkins Mill HS, 2- 8th graders, a 7th, 4th and 2nd grader. (Yes, that's 2 sets of twins; they're 11 months apart!) I am from Hagerstown, and attended Catholic schools there and have my BSN from Catholic Univ. My nursing experience has been in hospitals in DC, VA and MD, and currently am a full-time mom. I coach basketball for CYO, and will be coaching the WMHS girls volleyball team in a rec league this winter with the City of Gaithersburg. Tony is from Long Island originally and attended mcps and graduated from U of MD. He works for the Dept of Energy and does voice-over work on the side (www.tonycastellano.com). We're both Catholic and attend St. John Neumann Church in Gaithersburg.
[Date=12-18-2004] Name:Ellen Castellano, [Msgid=753081]


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Bio-Michelle Turner
My husband, Grant, and I were both raised here in Montgomery County and have lived in Wheaton/Silver Spring area for 18 years. We have six children ranging in age from 9 years to 23 years. Our two oldest(daughters) are in college. Our 17 year old son(senior) and 15 year old daughter(sophomore) are students at Einstein HS in Kensington. We have a 13 year old son at Sligo MS and our youngest daughter is a 4th grader at Oakland Terrace ES.
I have had the privilege of being a "full time" mom while my husband has worked in the field of Real Estate as a consultant for primarily commercial construction and leasing.
Grant is a lifelong member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints(Mormom). I joined the Church in 1984 and currently teach Sunday School to the 3 & 4 year olds. My husband is the secretary in the High Priest group.
[Date=12-17-2004] Name:michelle turner mnturner@comcast.net, [Msgid=753056]


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Ben Patton - Bio
Born (1957) and raised in Montgomery County. Fourth of ten children. Attended public schools through high school and graduated from University of Maryland in 1979. Married to Trish in 1983. Seven children (six girls and one boy in the middle) ages 18, 16, 15, 14, 10, 7 and 5. One in college (MC), three in high school at Damascus and three in elementary school (home school). Partner in CPA firm (Patton, Erskine & Braucht, P.C.) in Tysons Corner. (Virginia, long commute!) Have been attending church at Rock Creek Church in Derwood (Evangelical Free) since 1985. Currently serving on the Board for Rockville Pregnancy Center (a great pro-life, Christ centered organization).

Non-too happy about the MCPS BOE changes to the sex-ed curriculum.
[Date=12-16-2004] Name:Ben Patton Ben@Patton.Com, [Msgid=752689]


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John Garza Bio
Married to Robyn Garza, 3 children, Gabrielle age 7; Courtlyn age 5; Lucas age 4. The girls attend St. John's Episcopal School in Olney and Lucas attends Millan Methodists Pre School. Lucas suffers from autism and is home school most of the time. I attend Covenant Life Church and teach Sunday School one time per month. My wife is Jewish and does not attend Church regularly. I am a lawyer and parnter with Garza Regan & Assoc. My office is accross the street from the Courthouse in Rockville. I have been in practice for 23 years. I recently sued the BOE in connection with discrimination against Christian students. I am the current leader of the Legal Team.
[Date=12-16-2004] Name:John Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=752663]


VIDEO-LEGAL Top
[25 Posts ] [LastPost: 02-09-2005 2:25 PM]

Msg Topic [3 Replies Last Reply:02-09-2005 - 2:20 PM ]
2nd draft
here is the next draft. I would love to make a 14 page long letter but I want this to go out today.

Re: Legal Liability of the Board of Education and MCPS


Dear Members of the Board and Dr. Weast:

I represent the Citizens for Responsible Curriculum, Inc. (CRC), a rapidly growing and
dynamic group of concerned parents, taxpayers and citizens in Montgomery County. The CRC
Board has authorized me to transmit this letter to you in an effort to sound the alarm felt by many
in the County about the future health effects sure to follow the implementation of the new sex ed.
curriculum.

By separate letter CRC and individual parents and teachers will make demand on the
Board to stop implementation of the new sex ed curriculum. This request will be made to avert
several lawsuits already in preparation to be filed in Federal Court and with the State Board of
Education. These lawsuits will outline the Board’s failure to follow its own procedures, the
gross factual inaccuracies in the new curriculum and the unconstitutionality of setting up a
“separate but equal” curriculum that offends children and teachers with deeply held religious
faith so as to promote the gay lifestyle. (Not that I need to remind you, but religious
discrimination is actually in the Constitution). A request will be made to establish a new,
unbiased, Citizens Advisory Board which will submit a curriculum that does not offend anyone,
is implemented following the established procedures, contains accurate information, and is
constitutional. In addition to this future request, I write this letter to alert you to the future
litigation you are seeding with the new curriculum.

Attached is a copy of The Legal Liability Associated with Homosexuality Education in
Public Schools. This paper provides an assessment of the risks and liabilities associated with
policies and programs that normalize homosexual behavior in public schools. I urge each of you
to read it carefully and consider your legal responsibility to our children.

As a trial lawyer I see the following happening about 5 to 7 years from now. Many
young people having graduated from the County School System find themselves infected with
HIV, suffering from many STDs, dispite condom use, including the new extremely virulent
strains now coming from Europe, having other serious medical ailments as of result of long term
anal sex, including cancer. The empirical data from institutions such as the Center for Disease
Control now show that those who choose the gay lifestyle significantly shorten their lifespan.
For example, Oxford University found that gay and bisexual men shorten their life expectancy by
8 to 20 years. (This recourse is banned under your curriculum) (smoking only shortens ones
lifespan by 5 years). These young people find that they are not “gay” but had chosen that
lifestyle as a result of the indoctrination which began early in their school life. They will point to
this School Board as the group who started the slide with the new sex ed. curriculum. They will
point to the “safety” Trojan horse injected into the public schools by the gay community and
swallowed by the Board. They will go to trial lawyers and ask what they can do. And the
lawsuits will follow. By this time the accurate facts will be known and the juries will be
unsympathetic to the those who closed their eyes and ears to anything except the radical gay
agenda.

Attached is a copy of The Legal Liability Associated with Homosexuality Education in
Public Schools. This paper provides an assessment of the risks and liabilities associated with
policies and programs that normalize homosexual behavior in public schools. I urge each of you
to read it carefully and consider your legal responsibility to our children.

No one at CRC wants to hurt or damage self identified gay children. However, we
request the studies done by the BOE to determine the amount of “gay bashing” going on in the
schools. You have consistently failed to produce the evidence you must have. Exactly how big
a problem is this? Our kids are taught often to respect and love their neighbors. If more need be
done please share the information quickly. We were very concerned about the young gay man
beaten to death in Montana, but were likewise concerned when the truth came out that he was
killed by one of his own former bisexual lovers who foolishly tired to use what he thought was
anti-gay bias to his advantage.

Our studies show that gays have higher incomes, better jobs, better education and live in
nicer neighborhoods than do non-gays. We would appreciate the BOE information on gay
safety.

So far the BOE has refused to meet with us or even acknowledge us. Please reconsider
this approach. It never works. As a result you now receive a letter from me, a lawyer.

I look forward to hearing from you.
[Date=02-09-2005] Name:Johnny Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=778497]

duplication
John,

Paragraph three and five are the same. Looks like you copied the paragraph instead of moving it.
[Date=02-09-2005] Name:Ben Ben@Patton.com, [Msgid=778618]

add a few words
Another -3rd paragraph from bottom- "However, we request THAT YOU PROVIDE the studies"
[Date=02-09-2005] Name:Jiim rettab20@verizon, [Msgid=778592]

Looks good
typo- 4th paragraph, 8th line down in parenthesis should be resource, not recourse.

Jim


[Date=02-09-2005] Name:Jiim rettab20@verizon, [Msgid=778588]


Msg Topic [4 Replies Last Reply:02-09-2005 - 2:25 PM ]
draft liab. letter
attached is the draft liab. letter. please pick it apart.

Re: Legal Liability of the Board of Education and MCPS


Dear Members of the Board and Dr. Weast:

I represent the Citizens for Responsible Curriculum, Inc. (CRC), a rapidly growing and
dynamic group of concerned parents, taxpayers and citizens in Montgomery County. The CRC
Board has authorized me to transmit this letter to you in an effort to sound the alarm felt by many
in the County about the future health effects sure to follow the implementation of the new sex ed.
curriculum.

By separate letter CRC and individual parents and teachers will make demand on the
Board to stop implementation of the new sex ed curriculum. A request will be made to establish
a new, unbiased, Citizens Advisory Board which will submit a curriculum that does not offend
anyone, is implemented following the established procedures, contains accurate information, and
is constitutional. In addition to this future request, I write this letter to alert you to the future
litigation you are seeding with the new curriculum.

As a trial lawyer I see the following happening about 5 to 7 years from now. Many
young people having graduated from the County School System find themselves infected with
HIV, suffering from HPV (Hard to Prevent Virus) or many other STDs including the new
extremely virulent strains now coming from Europe, having other serious medical ailments as of
result of long term anal sex including cancer. The empirical data from institution such as the
Center for Disease Control now show that those who chose the gay lifestyle significantly shorten
their lifespan. For example, Oxford University found that gay and bisexual men shorten their life
expectancy by 8 to 20 years. (This recourse is banned under your curriculum). These young
people find that they are not “gay” but had chosen that lifestyle as a result of the indoctrination
which began early in their school life. They will point to this School Board as the group who
started the slide with the new sex ed. curriculum. They will point to the “safety” Trojan horse
injected into the public schools by the gay community and swallowed by the Board. They will
go to trial lawyers and ask what they can do. And the lawsuits will follow. By this time the
accurate facts will be known and the juries will be unsympathetic to the those who closed their
eyes and ears to anything except the radical gay agenda.

Attached is a copy of The Legal Liability Associated with Homosexuality Education in
Public Schools. This paper provides an assessment of the risks and liabilities associated with
policies and programs that normalize homosexual behavior in public schools. I urge each of you
to read it carefully and consider your legal responsibility to our children.

No one at CRC wants to hurt or damage self identified gay children. However, we
request the studies done by the BOE to determine the amount of “gay bashing” going on in the
schools. Exactly how big a problem is this? Our kids are taught often to respect and love their
neighbors. If more need be done please share in information quickly. We were very concerned
about the young gay man beaten to death in Montana, but were likewise concerned when the
truth came out that he was killed by one of his own former bisexual lovers who foolishly tired to
what he thought was anti-gay bias to his advantage.

Our studies show that gays have higher incomes, better jobs, better education and live in
nicer neighborhoods than do non-gays. We would appreciate the BOE information on this.

So far the BOE has refused to meet with us or even acknowledge us. Please reconsider
this approach. It almost always never works. As a result you now receive a letter from me, a
lawyer.

I look forward to hearing from you.
[Date=02-09-2005] Name:Johnny Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=778452]

letter to BoE
John,
There needs to be a little editing done. Before we move forward with this, let's talk about where we are with the "stay".

If everyone would familiarize themselves with this letter and be prepared to discuss tomorrow evening that would be helpful.

Also, Steve and I are meeting Friday morning with Valerie Ervin.

Michelle


[Date=02-09-2005] Name:michelle turner mnturner@comcast.net, [Msgid=778625]

Minor suggestion to letter
John,

Consider switching paragraphs three and four so that the Liability Letter gets a little more emphasis.
[Date=02-09-2005] Name:Ben Ben@Patton.com, [Msgid=778468]

Liability Letter
John,

Your letter is good. I still think we should still do the impactful liability letter from us directly to the Board instead of referencing the CCV's, as previously stated in my earlier email.

If our exec. board agrees to your attachement option, I suggest that you change the meaning you have in your letter of the accronym for HPV. Actually this accronym has a real medical meaning "Human Papyloma Virus (HPV). You may want to use the real medical definition, instead of the one you listed. By the way, this is considered an STD virus as well.


[Date=02-09-2005] Name:S. Mendoza incite_emc@yahoo.com, [Msgid=778467]

draft liab. letter
I know there are typos, etc. and I have already added some stuff, just want thoughts and then I will submit a final draft.
[Date=02-09-2005] Name:Johnny Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=778462]


Msg Topic [3 Replies Last Reply:02-08-2005 - 7:11 PM ]
Legal Liability Letter
I was getting started on the Legal Liability letter and found that the CCV letter is so compelling I thought I would write a short letter and attach the CCV position paper as an attachment. Doesa this sound ok to the BOD? The CCV paper is 14 pages long and I probably would not improve on it much. It will also speed up the process. I would like to let the letter go out this week.
[Date=02-08-2005] Name:Johnny Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=778036]

Legal Liability Letter
John,

I see your point about re-writing the letter... you don't want to change a good thing... I guess my immediate concern is that we are using the CVC's letter as a model and sending their letter to the school board as an attachment to our "short letter" may water down the impact of what we are trying to do.

I vote on changing whatever wording necessary and sending the same 14 page letter from the CRC to the school board. I think this would have a greater impact than as an attachment. After all, they are another group, located in another state... they may decide to take the attachment serious. I just want the board to know that we mean business. Sending the letter out from our organization is a better strategy.

Just giving my two cents... :O)
[Date=02-08-2005] Name:S. Mendoza incite_emc@yahoo.com, [Msgid=778165]

I gave Russ this document in July, 2003
During the writing committee of the curriculum I gave
Russ this document and he said he would pass it on. Obviously it did no good. Retta
[Date=02-08-2005] Name:Retta Rettab20@verizon, [Msgid=778141]

CCV letter as attachment
If it doesn't change the legal aspects of issuing it to the BOE, that should work!
[Date=02-08-2005] Name:TonyC ajcnet100@yahoo.com, [Msgid=778116]


Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:02-07-2005 - 4:59 PM ]
Protect Yourself Video
According to Russ, the video will be available for viewing at the high schools after feb 15 (training day), and parents can call the high schools to see it. I directly asked him about allowing us to post the video on our website and he thought we would not get approval for the reason that it is for 10th graders, and if it's posted online, younger kids could view it. In regard to obtaining a copy of the video via the Freedom of Information Act - John: will the fact that it is produced by and copyrighted to MCPS keep us from being able to post it even if we do get a copy?
To view it now, we have to go to a BOE building at 570 North Stonestreet Ave in Rocville, about 2 miles from Carver. Some of us plan to view it Tues after the BOE public comments time. We need to get over there no later than 11:30.
At this time, Steve and Laura will be speaking at the 10am meeting tomorrow, and Michelle and I will be in attendance. (I may speak also, but haven't decided yet.) Anyone who wants to come should expect to hear them as well as the teachthefacts people (they met over the weekend and posted about it on their site.)
[Date=02-07-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=777265]

We need as many to attend as possible
I really hope that other interested CRC parents will come to the BOE meeting tomorrow morning at 10 am. We (I) could really use the moral support and it would be great to have several people in attendance as I have a feeling the teachthefacts people will be bringing some ammo (not literally) in the form of people and statements. As Ellen said, read about the meeting they had on Saturday on their blog (if you can stomach it!).

Thanks everyone.
Laura
[Date=02-07-2005] Name:Laura quigley5@msn.com, [Msgid=777433]


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Information that could be useful
Bunny Galladora (media group/WCTU)
Sent me this description of a packet she got from Russ Henke. This may be valuable to the cases you legal folks are working on.
"Russ sent me the copies of the reports from the Local School - Comunity Planning Groups that I requested. Latest reports available are June 2004. (I was sure that these did not exist!)

Would this information be helpful to any of you for whatever you are working on?

The information on the forms consists of:
dates of first and second sememster
instruction time in hours
number of students in class
number of students who were excused
type of alternative instruction provided for each student who were excused
if Family Life and Human Sexuality was included in other subjects at that school
how were parents informed of their righ to excuse their child
dates or how instructional materials were available for parent review
how were parents notified about review sessions
when did the school-community planning group meet and who participated in the meeting
how were the materials reviewed
number of teachers in school certified to teach health course"
Her email is bgalladora@comcast.net if you want to ask her about this information.
[Date=01-29-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=772566]


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Garza out tell next week
I will be out of town and not easily reached tell Monday. If you need me I can reached on my cell phone is 301 706 5557. I will see everyone on the 3rd.

"We are hard-pressed on every side, yet not crushed, we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down but not destroyed - always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body . . . For all things are for your sakes, that grace, having spread through the many, may cause thanksgiving to abound to the glory of God." 2 Cor. 4:8-14
[Date=01-25-2005] Name:Johnny Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=770459]


Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:01-20-2005 - 8:18 AM ]
Our lawyers win in Louisianna
The same lawyers who are taking our case just reversed a trial court which struck as unconstitutional the Louisianna same sex marriage ban. The La. Sup Court reversed and reinstated the law.
[Date=01-19-2005] Name:John Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=766783]

Where can we help
John,

Let me know if you need a letter writing effort to help identify potential resources here. We can work up a press release on the past poor legal performance that would indicate the BOE's inclination to discriminate against religious families and organizations.

[Date=01-20-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=767238]


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Lawsuit
OK folks, I need anyone who wants to be a plaintiff in the case to send me an email with your name, address, email, phone, names of kids, school and grade. I need a set of plaintiffs for the federal lawsuit and a set for the State Board appeal. Two different sets. Our associate attorneys feel very confortable about these lawsuits. Also, if anyone knows of any TEACHERS WHO DO NOT WANT TO TEACH THIS STUFF, this presents another lawsuit. Please let me know. My email is jgarza@garzanet.com.
[Date=01-19-2005] Name:John Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=766554]


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Appeal to State Board
In addition to our federal lawsuit I think we can appeal to the State Board of Education to stop the curriculum. I am working on this and will be in touch.
[Date=01-18-2005] Name:John Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=766205]


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The calvary is coming!
TThe lawfirm that just whipped the BOE due to its unconstitutional conduct against the young
men of the “Good News Club” has agreed to help us in our case. We a putting together quite a
team of lawyers. If you know of any kids who have been discriminated against for their
viewpoint, or religious beliefs please let me know. The BOE has a poor batting record in Court
trying to defend its actions. Lastly, PLEASE, ALL PLAINTIFFS PLEASE EMAIL ME OR LET
ME KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
[Date=01-18-2005] Name:John Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=766147]


Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:01-10-2005 - 12:01 PM ]
all we need are plaintiffs
We are working on the lawsuit. We parents who have children in the school system to come forward and become plaintiffs. Identity will be kept anonymous, (for many reasons, including the fact that children are involved, threats, and subject matter). We specifically need kids who attend the pilot schools and kids in 8th or 10th grade or who will be in 8th or 10th grade perhaps next year. Also, if a kid is struggling with his/her sexual identiy that would be perfect. (Although according to the school, all kids fall into that category). We cannot file the suit without plaintiffs. Ms. Rickman has already volunteered, however, the more plaintiffs we have the better. Please search out parents who can come on board with this. There is no obligation to stay on or anything like that and I am availble to answer any questions. As far as I can tell this will be the first case like this one in the country. We need to do this for the children. Please help!
[Date=01-10-2005] Name:John Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=761827]

about finding plaintiffs
John,
You should talk about this on Saturday, and if it's the right thing, we can send out a message over the list serve. There are 55 members currently, but that number will go up after the WAVA interview on Wed.
[Date=01-10-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=761845]


Msg Topic [No Replies]
Extremely important to include condom objection
It is imperative that we keep the condom demonstration objection in the final draft petition!

Petition no. 1 does not say what we want to do about the condom video, only that we object to it. Many parents were originally up in arms over this provocative condom on cucumber demonstration video and to leave it out would disappoint many would-be petition signers. Furthermore, we are NOT saying that they should eliminate all talk of contraception and make it 'abstinence only' as our detractors suggest-- we are asking them to go back to the original curriculum already in place and that DOES have information (but no video) on condom usage.

Laura

[Date=01-06-2005] Name:Laura quigley5@msn.com, [Msgid=760208]


PETITION Top
[37 Posts ] [LastPost: 01-25-2005 9:21 PM]

Msg Topic [4 Replies Last Reply:01-25-2005 - 9:21 PM ]
Petition signatures at SJN
Over 300 signatures were gathered at St. John Neumann Catholic Church this weekend (1/23)! I think that's very encouraging. The snow may have kept some people away, but we will be there next weekend as well.
[Date=01-23-2005] Name:Jeanne G. Tondo jgtondo@comcast.net, [Msgid=769206]

Ben will give us a count
Most of those collecting signatures can't access our board, so we'll have to wait for Ben to get the petitions from the PO Box and give us a count. Here is the list of Coordinators:

Rock Creek Church, Derwood ----Ben Patton
St. Catherine Laboure, Wheaton-- Olga Fairfax
St. John The Evangelist, Silver Spring--- Steve Dirlik
First Baptist Church, Gaithersburg--- Peter Sprigg
Hope Alliance, Germantown--- Pamela Wong
St. John Neumann, Gaithersburg ---Jeannie Tondo
St. Rose of Lima, Gaithersburg ---Laura Quigley
Covenant Life, Gaithersburg--- Bob Buchanan
St. Paul’s Catholic Church, Damascus ----Rob Robertson
Redeemer Lutheran, Damascus---- Jill Ochs
Seneca Creek Community Church, Gaithersburg--- Sue Patton
Cedar Ridge Community Church, Spencerville--- Buffy Wiltz
Walkersville Christian Fellowship, Walkersville--- Burt Patton
Our Lady of the Visitation, Darnestown--- Elizabeth Gerpe (not permitted)
Derwood Bible, Derwood---Alex Smith
Grace Community Church of Damascus---Robert Kerth
Church of the Redeemer---Benny Dorsey
Little Flower Catholic Church, Bethesda---Steve and Patty Fisher
Fourth Presbyterian Church, Bethesda---John Erskine
St. Martin of Tours, Gaithersburg---Therese Rodriguez

[Date=01-25-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=770556]

Total petition count?
Can we get everyone who gathered petitions last weekend to post how many petitions they gathered so we can get a total count to date?
[Date=01-25-2005] Name:Dominic Tondo dtondo@comcast.net, [Msgid=770542]

Great News!
Thanks, this is very good news. I plan to send a press release and additional emails on our progress next weekend. Hopefully with the feedback we get from others, we should be approaching if not exceeding 1,000 signatures after just one week!

Did we have anyone with the petition at the March for Life down town today?
[Date=01-24-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=769967]

Signatures
Pam Plaisted was collecting a lot of signatures after Church on Sunday at Covenant Life Church. I saw several pages of signatures. The only thing holding her back was lack of man/woman power. There should be a good number of petitions coming from CLC.
[Date=01-24-2005] Name:Johnny Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=769431]


Msg Topic [4 Replies Last Reply:01-20-2005 - 2:44 PM ]
Getting our message out
I took my son to a soccerpractice at the Germantown soccerplex yesterday (he drives himself so usually I don't go). There were lots of parents watching/waiting for their kids, I had my petition and got over 20 signatures, many of those people I have never met before. I did not have time to ask all the parents there, but all I asked wanted to sign, except 3. What I learned was that most of these parents did not know about the changes or had some vague idea that there were some changes. We need to have a business card to give out with our web address and some 2-4 liners of info on it. I was scrabbling on newspaper etc. I just went into this cold/unprepared, but it was great, the positive response I got. I met a health teacher from Farquhar MS. he does not want to teach this course and he and other health teachers have been wanting to put together an alternate health course and get it approved with BOE, I told him to contact us. So all of you creative citizens, can any of you come up with a pithy card?? I will be happy to take to printer and finance a bunch, Steina Walter
[Date=01-19-2005] Name:Steina Walter swalter86@verizon.net, [Msgid=766820]

Here is a sheet of printable cards
Attached is a sheet of business cards that could be handed out while collecting petition signatures. I will have these at our church, and bring them to the March for Life. Feel free to change the wording if you want, it's a Word doc. (I'll put them on card stock paper).
[Date=01-20-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=767464]
Attached File "mcpsbusinesscard~doc.zip" - size 41984 Click Here To Download

business cards
www.vistaprint.com can help you design business cards



[Date=01-20-2005] Name:Estella pfox_exgays@hotmail.com, [Msgid=767424]

Please have the teacher email me
Great work... this is encouraging, too.

I would like to get the teacher's comments and work up a press release and message to the BOE among others about the reluctance of some teachers to teach this course. I would also like to highlight that it is forcing teachers to create their own alternative courses as well.

Please if you have this teacher's name, have them contact me and John.


[Date=01-20-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=767239]

petition
Did the health teacher get hold of John?
[Date=01-19-2005] Name:retta rettab20@verizon.net, [Msgid=766924]


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Details about the petition drive
Ben will be collecting the signed petitions, scanning/copying, counting, and storing the originals until delivery to the BOE. Thank you Ben! Keep us posted.
HAVE YOU SIGNED UP TO BE A PETITION COORDINATOR YET?
I am collecting the petition coordinators names and churches in order to send out a letter on our email lists. Please send me anyone that you find who is willing to do this at their church or organization (name/place). I hope to have enough names to send a message out in the middle of the week.
This is the fun part!! Last night I took the petition to a basketball game and every parent (on our team) there signed it, and I filled the rest of the sheet this am at church. People are very happy to sign it, and grateful that we are doing this. I told them we are trying to get 10 or 20 thousand signatures.
[Date=01-16-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=765156]


Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:01-20-2005 - 8:24 AM ]
Bring the Petition to the MARCH FOR LIFE
The March for Life is Monday Jan 24th. We are going and will bring lots of hardcopies for people to sign who come to the March (remember they DON'T need to live in Montgomery County to sign!). All we need to do is canvas folks who we see.

Also - if your church is going down in buses as a group, ask your Pastor if you can circulate the petition on the buses for them to sign!

We can get many, many, many signature that day!

TonyC
[Date=01-14-2005] Name: TonyC ajcnet100@yahoo.com, [Msgid=764069]

Please take article
Tony,

Also take copies of the press release and and other articles we have prepared and make them available too.

I would recommend we take a sheet of tear-off tags with our web site address so you can pass these out to folks to go online and sign that petition too as well as joining our email list and volunteers.

Steve
[Date=01-20-2005] Name:Steve stfisher21@cs.com, [Msgid=767241]


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The Flyer
Here is the flyer to accompany the petition that we revised while on the phone. We are not going to revise it. Please feel free to make your own revisions if you feel it is necessary when you collect petition signatures.
[Date=01-13-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=763978]
Attached File "PetitionFlyer~pdf.zip" - size 14123 Click Here To Download


Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:01-14-2005 - 2:24 PM ]
And the winner is.........
The petition and flyer are posted on mcpscurriculum.com
The vote during the conference call was for Mary's latest and shortest version of the petition, see attached. Her fact sheet was also approved with revisions, see attached. The fact sheet is to be a supportive document for the petition. We aren't going to alter it, if you don't agree with the wording, change it for your own petition collections.
[Date=01-13-2005] Name:Ellen ellenmc7@juno.com, [Msgid=763970]
Attached File "CRCPetition~pdf.zip" - size 44350 Click Here To Download

Petition
Good job! Will the online petition be changed?
Also I am confused about what Tony said. Does it not matter if non-Montgomery county people sign the petition? Are you going to send the petiton to the BOE? Would they care if other people sign it from outside of the county?

[Date=01-14-2005] Name:Retta Rettab20@verizon.net, [Msgid=764259]


Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:01-13-2005 - 7:46 PM ]
we need more signatures
I checked the petitiononline and noticed that the "bring back hfs radio station" started today has 12,000 signatures already and all we have is 100 + signatures. I hope we can get this petition on the front page.
[Date=01-13-2005] Name:John Garza jgarza@garzanet.com, [Msgid=763881]

RECALL SITE MODS
John - I will feature the on-line petition prominently on the main page. Give me about 15 minutes.
[Date=01-13-2005] Name:ADMINISTRATOR support@recallmontgomeryschoolboard.com, [Msgid=763883]


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CIVIL - NOT SUBMISSIVE
I agree Mary with your post in the media section. There is a place for focused anger here. Lets not forget that this "quasi" elected board, immediately after the nationwide election which trounced the homosexual agenda, instituted a profoundly pro-gay curriculum. What they did was, and still is, outrageous.

This board is NOT going to recant anything because of "supplicant" appeals to listen to our position. The only thing that is going to get their complete attention is:

1. Continuing outrage streaming in to their castle headquarters
2. John Garza proceeding immediatley with his lawsuit. (Lawsuits tend to get peoples attention - merit or no merit because it forces them to deal with their legal team on a continuing basis)
3. 50,000 plus signatures between the paper petition and the on-line petition.
4. Tabulation of all the outrageous things said about us and this issue, and posted on both web sites.
5. Massive email campaign to inform and INFLAME.

In other words, aggressive tactics.

[Date=01-13-2005] Name:ADMINISTRATOR support@recallmontgomeryschoolboard.com, [Msgid=763681]


Msg Topic [1 Reply Last Reply:01-13-2005 - 12:34 PM ]
EMAIL CAMPAIGN
I totally agree with Theresa. This is a public relations-Media war. Sharon, the fox, has won round one...period. She used the "poor wilting flower" in the face of the "big bad dangerous homphobe" ploy number 36.

Now, we better be more aggresive, and faster if we are not going to be totally out flanked. The Email campaign Theresa is talking about is the fastest way to stir the pot in our favor, particulalry since this county is very internet savy. I will help with this email campaugn in any way that I can.

AND, I still think we need to be out front with Condom Video excerpts on the web sites to get our "base" motivated. If its controversial then GOOD..maby we will get some press and eyeballs.
[Date=01-12-2005] Name:ADMINISTRATOR support@recallmontgomeryschoolboard.com, [Msgid=763332]

Petition-General Comment
O.K. from one that has been in the “lions den” for 2 years. Let me tell you that the opposition will stop at nothing for their “cause”. There is no compromise. They lie to get their point across. I tried reasoning and the Advisor

July 24, 2005 1:14 AM  

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