Ain't That America
Woops -- lawsuit time:
Well at least the kid is learning to have a good sense of respect for authority.
A Denver-area man filed a lawsuit today against a member of the Secret Service for causing him to be arrested after he approached Vice President Dick Cheney in Beaver Creek this summer and criticized him for his policies concerning Iraq.
Attorney David Lane said that on June 16, Steve Howards was walking his 7-year-old son to a piano practice, when he saw Cheney surrounded by a group of people in an outdoor mall area, shaking hands and posing for pictures with several people.
According to the lawsuit filed at U.S. District Court in Denver, Howards and his son walked to about two-to-three feet from where Cheney was standing, and said to the vice president, "I think your policies in Iraq are reprehensible," or words to that effect, then walked on.
Ten minutes later, according to Howards' lawsuit, he and his son were walking back through the same area, when they were approached by Secret Service agent Virgil D. "Gus" Reichle Jr., who asked Howards if he had "assaulted" the vice president. Howards denied doing so, but was nonetheless placed in handcuffs and taken to the Eagle County Jail. Arrest over Cheney barb triggers lawsuit
Well at least the kid is learning to have a good sense of respect for authority.
posted by JimK at 3:39 PM
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It takes a good man to accept criticism.
From the Rocky Mountain News,
Ten minutes later, according to Howards' lawsuit, he and his son were walking back through the same area, when they were approached by Secret Service agent Virgil D. "Gus" Reichle Jr., who asked Howards if he had "assaulted" the vice president. Howards denied doing so, but was nonetheless placed in handcuffs and taken to the Eagle County Jail.
I have seen this coming for a long time now...enough of this treatment of the President, Vice President and any senior Admin official!
Hello? Have they ever heard of the First Amendment? As long as Mr. Lane's words were non-threatening (and they appear to have been exactly that), the Secret Service was way out of bounds. I am disgusted at this news and I hope he wins in court.
Come to think of it, for all of Clinton's faults, he accepted public criticism and scorn (and then would serve it back). I can respect that...maybe it is time for the Republicans to be humbled.
"The Dow Jones Industrial Average blasted past its all-time closing high today as oil prices slumped under $59 and financial and technical stocks rallied.
Crude oil was the immediate catalyst for the rally. Oil tumbled nearly 4% to $58.68 after hurricane researchers at Colorado State University forecast no major storms in the oil-producing Gulf of Mexico.
Absent some sort of terrorist disruption, oil could drop down to as little as $50, traders said. That would bring more relief to motorists who have seen gasoline prices drop to about $2.30 a gallon from $3 this summer."
Hope everyone enjoyed paying all that extra money this summer just because oil was bid up to accomodate the dire warnings of the global warming loonies.
"Senators to push for $100 gas rebate checks
Under proposal, most U.S. taxpayers would get one
From Dana Bash
CNN
Thursday, April 27, 2006; Posted: 9:11 p.m. EDT (01:11 GMT)
Business is brisk at an Arco station in Los Angeles on Wednesday, where regular went for $3.159/gallon.
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Most American taxpayers would get $100 rebate checks to offset the pain of higher pump prices for gasoline, under an amendment Senate Republicans hope to bring to a vote soon."
Bask in the sunshine....and learn to swim:
"Alaskan storm cracks iceberg in Antarctica
Wednesday October 4, 2006
A bad storm in Alaska last October generated an ocean swell that broke apart a giant iceberg near Antarctica six days later, US researchers say.
The waves travelled 13,500km to destroy the iceberg, said Douglas MacAyeal of the University of Chicago and Emile Okal at Northwestern University."
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=5&ObjectID=10404143
assault is to say you will hurt someone physicaly Denver man probaly said something he should not have and his attorney sounds like a ACLU type. this will go no ware.
Another blatant torture technique. This poor innocent terrorists are being forced to overeat. What horrid and inhumane conditions! Someone alert al-jazeerha.:
"High-Calorie Diets Make Detainees Fat
By MICHAEL MELIA, AP
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (Oct. 4) - Offered a high-calorie diet, many detainees at Guantanamo Bay are becoming fat.
Meals totaling a whopping 4,200 calories per day are brought to their cells - U.S. government dietary guidelines recommend 2,000 to 3,000 calories per day for weight maintenance - and some inmates are eating everything on the menu.
One detainee has almost doubled in weight, to 410 pounds, Navy Cmdr. Robert Durand, spokesman for the detention facilities, said Monday.
But Durand said detainees are simply served a wide variety of food and expected to choose what appeals to them.
"The detainees are advised that they are offered more food than necessary to provide choice and variety, and that consuming all the food they are offered will result in weight gain," he said."
Yeah right, buddy. We know what you're up to!!
'Gay' activist held
info about Foley
During campaign to 'out' lawmakers
said story would break before election
Posted: October 3, 2006
5:00 p.m. Eastern
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com
Former Rep. Mark Foley
A radical activist on a mission to "out" conservative homosexual lawmakers and Capitol Hill staffers held on to information about Rep. Mark Foley's relationships with underage male pages, suggesting the story would break at the time of mid-term elections.
Blogger Jim Hoft of Gateway Pundit points to a campaign by two activists who had Foley on their "target list" of 20 people and shared the information with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.
In July 2004, the homosexual newspaper Washington Blade reported the two activists, Mike Rogers and John Aravosis, were "loosely heading an ongoing outing campaign on the Hill" ahead of the Senate vote on the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would bar same-sex marriage.
Among nearly 20 names on the "target list" provided to the Blade were Foley.
Rogers – in a March 4, 2005, post on his website BlogActive.com – declared Foley to be "gay" and, therefore, a hypocrite for voting for legislation against the homosexual agenda. The post said: "MARK FOLEY WILL BE EXPOSED FOR THE HYPOCRITE HE IS THROUGH A MAIL AND INTERNET CAMPAIGN THAT WILL REACH INTO EVERY HOME IN HIS DISTRICT."
More than a year ago, in a March 2005 post, Rogers said he had thought hard about what kind of action to take and said that while none would be taken at the moment, "When we get closer to the mid-term elections, I am sure more will surface."
Rogers did his own investigation of Foley, writing that through his recorded discussions with current and former staff members he learned how the congressman "hit on" young men at the Republican convention.
In a post Sunday, Rogers wrote about his attempt to communicate with Democrat officials, saying "the good news is that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is finally getting it."
Rogers said that prior to the Foley story breaking Friday, he called the DCCC's director of communications, Bill Burton, to let him know that the information about Foley – and another case – were "coming down the pike."
Burton had promised to have someone e-mail or return Rogers' call but apparently didn't follow though. Now, however, since the story broke Friday, said Rogers, "I am glad he followed up on my call and was ready on Friday to come out of the gate running."
Rogers added: "The bad new is they are still not paying enough attention. ... There are others within reach. ... If the Democrats would only fight half as hard as the Republicans."
Rogers said he posted comments about Foley on the DCCC website, but they were deleted.
In another post, Rogers admitted he had possession of the lurid Foley e-mails before they were posted on the Web."
"As people know, it's not always possible for me to disclose my role in some of the activities.
I can say this. I had the emails before they were on the net. Additionally, I had the additional emails, written by the page to a friend. The story was being written by a number of outlets and I provided additional information to reporters involved in the breaking of this story.
A commenter here likes to refer to "the global warming loonies."
Those "loonies" are cropping up all over the place. Look who's the latest "loony" to jump on the global warming bandwagon reported in this week's Time Magazine:
http://www.time.com/time/insidebiz/article/0,9171,1541262,00.html
Excerpt:
"There hasn't been a hurricane in London since last, oh, ever. But there has been an insurer there, Lloyd's, since 1771. And because it's an outfit that historically insured ships, weather is never too far from its mind. Last year Hurricane Katrina turned heads at Lloyd's. The storm didn't just flood New Orleans; it also swept away the insurance industry's trust in its catastrophe modeling, the tool it depends on to evaluate bad-weather risk. The model assumed that a hurricane like Katrina couldn't happen in the same year as two other superstorms. Nor did it envision the off-the-scale damage caused by Katrina--275,000 houses destroyed, 10 times the number flattened by the previous worst-case model, Hurricane Andrew. Katrina prompted Lloyd's and other insurers to do some corporate soul searching that, surprisingly, could speed up the world's counterattack against global warming."
uh, oh- I wrote to Michael Steele to say his ads are lies- he claims distance from Washington but I was there last summer(2005) outside the RNC when a fundraiser "headlined" by Rove was given for Steele. I was going to say this to him in person -but maybe his state troopers would beat me up?
The growing evidence that Foley was conducting explicit exchanges with others could threaten Hastert and other Republican leaders who now acknowledge they knew about the matter as early as six months ago. They include House Majority Leader John A. Boehner (Ohio) and Rep. Tom Reynolds (N.Y.), who is in charge of the effort to elect House Republicans. "It's a basic management issue," Torie Clarke, a former Republican Party operative, said on "This Week." "Republicans are in charge of the House and this looks like a House out of order."
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pri&dt=061002&cat=frontpage&st=frontpagegma_yang_foley_061001&src=abc
"uh, oh- I wrote to Michael Steele to say his ads are lies- he claims distance from Washington but I was there last summer(2005) outside the RNC when a fundraiser "headlined" by Rove was given for Steele. I was going to say this to him in person -but maybe his state troopers would beat me up?"
That's only the secret service. I don't think Steele's under their protection. They've always been a little over-the-top but I think their perspective is that the P and VP are in special danger and special measures are necessary to protect them.
I remember walking downtown one time and a limo with escort whisked up. I stopped to watch what was going on and a couple of secret serice agents jumped out and started hassling me because I had my hands in my pocket. Extremely rude and clearly trying to intimidate. If they'd asked nicely, I probably still would have taken them out.
A couple of seconds later out pops George Bush the father (he was VP then) all smiling and happy that a couple of people were waiting for him to get out. I neglected to tell him all his ads were lies.
Anyway, that's the way they are. People do threaten the lives of our leaders. Still, the arrest thing is quite ridiculous and I hope the victim gets his share of the money the government borrows every day.
I don't think Steele's security will beat you up. They'll probably want to interogate you first. Then comes jail. Don't worry though. You're not alone. All your friends will stand in the rain until you're released.
Let's hope Judge Williams gets this one:
"Maryland School Sued for Refusing to Let Girl Read Bible
Meghan Mulhern
Correspondent
(CNSNews.com) - A conservative civil liberties group has filed suit against a school in Greenbelt, Md., for violating the constitutional rights of a seventh-grader who was allegedly threatened with discipline for reading her Bible in school.
"This was a young Christian girl, who has been a Christian for less than a year, and so this is really important for her," said John W. Whitehead, president and founder of the Rutherford Institute, which represents Amber Mangum in the case.
"She is in a public school where there is no religious influence. So she eats her lunch, she's taking a break, she's reading her Bible, and this school official comes up to her and says she's going to be disciplined if she doesn't stop reading it," Whitehead added.
The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland against Dwight D. Eisenhower Middle School. Eighth grade Vice Principal Jeannette Rainey and Principal Charoscar Coleman are among the defendants in the suit.
According to the student's mother, Maryanne Mangum, Amber was reading her Bible after finishing her lunch when Rainey gave her a "verbal warning" to put the Bible away.
Amber was told she "was not allowed to read it, and if it happened again," Amber would be punished, her mother said. "She didn't take the Bible back to school."
The school district's policy, along with the guidelines under the U.S. Department of Education's 2003 No Child Left Behind Act, gives students the right to read Bibles or other religious scriptures during lunch hour, recess or other non-instructional times.
"NCLBA, which is federal law that came in under the Bush administration, actually has this provision stating that students have a right to read their Bibles or other religious scriptures during the school day. It provides for that. It says also that you can actually get your federal funding taken away if you violate the NCLBA," Whitehead explained.
But Ellen Johnson, president of American Atheists, said most of the time, "right-wing groups" that file lawsuits "exaggerate what happened in school, and that is usually brought out later in the case."
"What probably happened is this kid, I'll bet you, was being disruptive. I bet this kid was proselytizing, was preaching, doing something that was annoying other kids and was told to stop. Kids don't normally want to read the Bible at lunch time-I don't care who they are. It's just not something kids want to do," said Johnson.
According to Maryanne Mangum, her daughter became a Christian a year ago. "She accepted the Lord as her savior and is really into church, church activities, and she is really into her Bible. This upset her very much, that she could not do something that she enjoyed doing," she said.
The middle school would not respond to any phone calls or e-mail requests for comment. The school has given no response to anyone, not the Mangums or the Rutherford Institute. The Prince George's County Public School's communications officer had no comment.
"They haven't said anything. They've been very quiet, not saying a word. I don't think there is much of a defense. This is a child in her own free-time reading the Bible. That's what makes it so outrageous," Whitehead said."
"Group Prepares Legal Challenge to 'Born Gay' Theory
Lawrence Morahan
Senior Staff Writer
(CNSNews.com) - A coalition representing former homosexuals is developing a legal strategy to litigate on behalf of people who challenge the proposition that individuals are "born gay."
The group also is seeking to promote the idea, particularly among schoolchildren, that people can overcome unwanted homosexual attractions.
Arthur Goldberg, president of Positive Alternatives to Homosexuality and co-director of Jews Offering New Alternatives to Homosexuality, said the coalition intends to stress the concept of diversity, a concept he said homosexual advocacy groups have misrepresented to promote the concept that people can't change.
"We want to make sure that people understand the diversity, that this is an open forum. We want toleration of those who have been able to successfully change and get their rights recognized as real rights," Goldberg said
Dr. Warren Throckmorton, a professor at Grove City College, Pa. said the coalition aims to correctly portray the current state of research concerning sexual orientation.
"There are two broad views about the origins of homosexuality - one being related to environmental factors and one being primarily related to genetic factors," said Throckmorton. "The truth is, the science on the subject is so unclear that we can't really say with certainty that we know what the role of any of those factors are."
Since homosexuality cannot be identified by immutable genetic traits, such as skin or hair color, spokesmen for the coalition said policymakers should be allowed to hear that thousands of people who used to consider themselves homosexuals now are living as heterosexuals.
Coalition members also want to see an end to what they consider reverse discrimination by institutions. Since homosexuality is no longer considered a disorder, neither should recovery from homosexuality be considered a disorder, they said.
Goldberg described so-called ex-gays, who he said are fighting a two-front war, as "the most repressed minority in the world."
"They're fighting an internal battle with their own unfilled emotional needs on the one side, and on the other, they're fighting society, which is telling them to accept it," Goldberg said.
Indeed, institutions that suppress the message could put themselves in legal jeopardy. According to Goldberg, schools and universities that tell questioning individuals homosexuality is genetic may be liable in lawsuits if clients endanger themselves or others by engaging in sex acts on the advice of school counselors or psychologists.
Data show that an individual's environment clearly plays a role in forming sexual attitudes, Throckmorton said. Also, there may be some factors that would be loosely called genetic that influence sexual choice in some way.
"But to say that we have any kind of clarity about the way that would occur is just wrong," Throckmorton said.
Throckmorton said the coalition's primary objective was to reach policymakers, particularly in the field of education, "because so much of what the schools are teaching concerning sexual orientation is really suspicious from a scientific point of view."
Many school authorities have adopted the "born gay theory" as fact, ignoring a considerable scientific controversy over that theory, Throckmorton said.
"Within the scientific community, there are many people who simply don't accept that the data support that theory," Throckmorton said."
Ok, so after the 2000 elections a friend and I went down with our eldest kids at the time to protest that Al Gore would not resign.
We were outside of Gore's house, with a number of other protesters, with sign on how hand re-counts of only democratic counties were unconstitutional...
anyway, walking back to the car, there was a car behind us with very bright lights who seem to be be watching us get into my friends car....
and then she got a christmas card from Al Gore.
Very weird.
I think you've posted a very inconvenient truth, Theresa.
Theresa said, and then she got a christmas card from Al Gore.
Jealous Theresa?
Grinch
Here's another "inconvenient truth."
Bush staffers ejected 3 at speech
Secret Service not responsible.
A federal report shows a White House employee ousted the trio from the president's talk in Denver.
By Howard Pankratz
Denver Post Staff Writer
A White House staff member was responsible for asking three people to leave President Bush's town-hall meeting in Denver a year ago, a U.S. Secret Service agent said during an internal investigation of the event.
The Secret Service was investigating the complaints of the three people, who said they were ousted from the Bush event last March because their car's bumper sticker criticized his foreign policy...
http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_3619779
I'd rather get a Christmas card than "ousted" from a town hall meeting.
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