Shower-Nuts Are Up Against The Wall
This is a new twist. Now the Citizens for Responsible Whatever are going to collect signatures on private property, with video cameras in case anybody comes and tries to correct their misinformation. And they are threatening to sue somebody for something, that's unusual.
From this morning's newsletter:
For most petitions, about seventy to eighty percent of the signatures turn out to be valid. We heard signature-gatherers telling people that they didn't need to be Montgomery County residents, so you can expect the number thrown out will be nontrivial.
If eighty percent are valid, the CRW will need 31,250 raw signatures to hit 25,000 valid ones. At seventy percent, they'll need 35,714.
Figure yesterday morning they said they had 22,362, today they have (they say) 25,500. So in an all-out effort on a Sunday with nice weather, they added a little more than three thousand signatures. Today's a holiday for a lot of people, let's say they are able to do that again. Let's say they get as many as 3,500 signatures. That puts them at 29,000, and they better start praying that almost all of them are good, honest, Montgomery County voters, and that no nefarious opposition parties secretly went out and signed with made-up names. "Michelle Mouse," that's a registered voter, right?
But that's not really the good part of this newsletter. There're several good chunks of ... information here.
If you patronize any of these businesses, you might want to have second thoughts.
That "voter intimidation" thing is pretty good. You've read what we've been doing. Turns out it is very effective for people to meet an actual transgender person, the kind of person this bill protects. It may seem like "intimidation" to some of them, but these ladies are about as un-intimidating as you can get. We have flyers that correct the lies the CRW is telling people, and we hand those out and sometimes explain to people what the law really is about. If "voter intimidation" means exposing voters to both sides of an issue, then ... draw your own conclusion. Some people we talked to decided to sign anyway, some didn't.
This last part is fun and very creative -- they really do like the phrase "voter intimidation":
I love this: "two other quite large" transgender women. I'll tell you, Cynthia's what you call a "tall drink of water," Maryanne is not tall at all, and I'm not asking, but it is doubtful whether either one of them breaks a hundred pounds. V-e-r-r-y scary couple of ladies, very intimidating.
Tell you what, go back and look at the pictures on this blog to see actual images of this voter intimidation. That's one intimidating-looking hug, isn't it?
By the way, the CRW newsletter actually uses a picture from our blog. Yes, my Canon PowerShot A630 takes pretty good pictures, doesn't it? It gets a lot of pictures out of a set of batteries, too, at 8.0 megapixels. I'd recommend that they go out and buy their own.
Since they're saying that Giant allows them to collect signatures, I should remind you that nearly every Giant store except Arliss threw them out. I don't think it was our complaining that did it, the managers just came out and made them leave. I saw it happen myself a number of times. At Watkins Mill, when the manager came out and I was talking to the nice lady, he thought I was one of them, and told "us" we had to leave. I thanked him, I'm sure he thinks the CRW is very polite! Christine and I (no transgender people) were there, we hadn't even gone inside the building, didn't talk to the manager, he just didn't want his store to be associated with that kind.
Here's a fun snippet from their newsletter. If anyone comes out to give the other side of the controversy:
And one last request they have, this tells you everything you need to know:
This is a beautifully clear statement. The hint of a threat of violence, coupled with a nice, pure bigot's-eye view of what a "guy" is and what this transgender business is all about.
It does appear there is a need for some educating here.
From this morning's newsletter:
We have about 25,500 in hand.
KEEP GOING FOLKS.
We have to have about 30,000 RAW signatures to make sure we have 25,000 valid signatures... so please go the extra mile and KEEP COLLECTING.
Every signature counts. If you have been procrastinating, please stop by one of these locations tomorrow and sign the petition ! It would be heartbreaking to get this close and miss getting on the ballot because we didn't have enough valid signatures. Please don't let that happen. Walk your neighborhood if you have not done so... this is the fastest and easiest way to get signatures.
For most petitions, about seventy to eighty percent of the signatures turn out to be valid. We heard signature-gatherers telling people that they didn't need to be Montgomery County residents, so you can expect the number thrown out will be nontrivial.
If eighty percent are valid, the CRW will need 31,250 raw signatures to hit 25,000 valid ones. At seventy percent, they'll need 35,714.
Figure yesterday morning they said they had 22,362, today they have (they say) 25,500. So in an all-out effort on a Sunday with nice weather, they added a little more than three thousand signatures. Today's a holiday for a lot of people, let's say they are able to do that again. Let's say they get as many as 3,500 signatures. That puts them at 29,000, and they better start praying that almost all of them are good, honest, Montgomery County voters, and that no nefarious opposition parties secretly went out and signed with made-up names. "Michelle Mouse," that's a registered voter, right?
But that's not really the good part of this newsletter. There're several good chunks of ... information here.
PETITION DROP OFF LOCATIONS - these businesses are collecting signatures for us tomorrow. We are not publishing general polling locations because of harassment. We also apologize for not being present at some of the locations the robo calls referred to... we were told to leave some of the locations because of an opposing group engaging in voter intimidation. These businesses have agreed to collect today. You may also turn in signed petitions here. NOTE TO HARASSERS. THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, THEY HAVE VIDEO CAMERAS, AND WE WILL SUE. THE LAWSUIT IS ALREADY BEING PREPARED. YOU HAD BETTER HAVE DEEP POCKETS.
10 AM to 6 PM
Dr Tom Dooley
17904 Georgia Ave
Suite 304
Olney MD 20830
301-924-2790
Ask for Phyllis
10 AM to 4PM
Print And Post
19316 Montgomery Village Ave,
Gaithersburg, MD 20886
301-670-9333
8 AM to 2PM
Scribbler Press
3314 Fern Dale St
Kensington, MD
301-946-2349
Beltway Chevron
9435 Georgia Ave.
Silver Spring Md. 20910.
Patton Electronics Co.
7622 Rickenbacker Drive
Gaithersburg, MD 20879
8:30-4PM
If you patronize any of these businesses, you might want to have second thoughts.
That "voter intimidation" thing is pretty good. You've read what we've been doing. Turns out it is very effective for people to meet an actual transgender person, the kind of person this bill protects. It may seem like "intimidation" to some of them, but these ladies are about as un-intimidating as you can get. We have flyers that correct the lies the CRW is telling people, and we hand those out and sometimes explain to people what the law really is about. If "voter intimidation" means exposing voters to both sides of an issue, then ... draw your own conclusion. Some people we talked to decided to sign anyway, some didn't.
This last part is fun and very creative -- they really do like the phrase "voter intimidation":
COUNTY COUNCIL EMPLOYEE DANA BEYER ENGAGES IN VOTER INTIMIDATION.
A group of three transgender and several other supporters were visiting petition sites and harassing petition circulators.
The GIANT grocery stores allow petitioners on their sites... which is a great way to support our democracy. You need to ask permission to be on their private property, and you are not supposed to be petitioning (for or against) without permission. However, it appears that the transgender Dana Beyer (who works in Duchy Trachtenbergs office) doesn't want the people to be able to vote on the bill. Dana Beyer and two other quite large male to female transgender were surrounding petition circulators, handing flyers out to petition volunteers as they were signing, and doing everything possible to intimidate voters from signing.
I love this: "two other quite large" transgender women. I'll tell you, Cynthia's what you call a "tall drink of water," Maryanne is not tall at all, and I'm not asking, but it is doubtful whether either one of them breaks a hundred pounds. V-e-r-r-y scary couple of ladies, very intimidating.
Tell you what, go back and look at the pictures on this blog to see actual images of this voter intimidation. That's one intimidating-looking hug, isn't it?
By the way, the CRW newsletter actually uses a picture from our blog. Yes, my Canon PowerShot A630 takes pretty good pictures, doesn't it? It gets a lot of pictures out of a set of batteries, too, at 8.0 megapixels. I'd recommend that they go out and buy their own.
Since they're saying that Giant allows them to collect signatures, I should remind you that nearly every Giant store except Arliss threw them out. I don't think it was our complaining that did it, the managers just came out and made them leave. I saw it happen myself a number of times. At Watkins Mill, when the manager came out and I was talking to the nice lady, he thought I was one of them, and told "us" we had to leave. I thanked him, I'm sure he thinks the CRW is very polite! Christine and I (no transgender people) were there, we hadn't even gone inside the building, didn't talk to the manager, he just didn't want his store to be associated with that kind.
Here's a fun snippet from their newsletter. If anyone comes out to give the other side of the controversy:
Bring a camcorder or a camera and get a picture. The lawsuit is coming and tell them you hope that they have deep pockets and a good attorney. Get their name.
And one last request they have, this tells you everything you need to know:
We definitely need more petition volunteers tomorrow to work our sites, can you please help ? We could use some large guys (who are sure they are guys) in case the opposition team of guys (that think they are girls) shows up and starts up again.
This is a beautifully clear statement. The hint of a threat of violence, coupled with a nice, pure bigot's-eye view of what a "guy" is and what this transgender business is all about.
It does appear there is a need for some educating here.
posted by JimK at 8:51 AM
34 Comments:
RIO Theresa, "NOTE TO HARASSERS. THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, THEY HAVE VIDEO CAMERAS, AND WE WILL SUE. THE LAWSUIT IS ALREADY BEING PREPARED. YOU HAD BETTER HAVE DEEP POCKETS."
Johnny Garza again????????????
People can video and take photograghs of anyone coming and going out of these businesses(unless RIO Theresa is saying there is no public space around these businesses) and should post photos of the actual locations that accept hate.
Ted
Looking at the picture from Leisure World, it looks like three larger individuals surrounding one shorter elderly gentleman. In fairness, based on reading the comments of Maryanne and Cynthia here, they don't seem the type to do this personally. Still, whether intentionally or not, they seemed to be forming a blockade, making it impossible for the gentleman to talk to passersby and vice versa. Is this why some of your more cunning members selected Leisure World? Intimidation of the elderly people there?
There is case law governing this kind of thing and I think you're in violation. Theresa's letter, which you excerpted, included the legal guidelines.
Your insane campaign to get business owners to harass these petitioners and deny them free speech is over the top and undemocratic. Your attempts to make a spectacle of yourself and circumvent discussion have largely failed. The business owners have generally not supported you and have supported democracy.
BTW, is it true that Dana pushed Theresa?
Anon...trying to start something with a lie?
Oh yeah poor shower nuts.
Ted
"BTW, is it true that Dana pushed Theresa?"
I think this is what Ted's referring to.
I double-checked and I misread the information. It wasn't Theresa but some other CRC volunteer who has alleged that Dana violently pushed them.
Just giving Dana a chance to respond to this allegation.
Alleged pushing or an attempt to start a lie/rumor in hopes the shower nuts can get some sympathy no matter what?
Hmmm maybe we can say--- I heard a shower nut pushed someone who was there for "Decline to Sign"?
See how this works?
Is Dana the target of the bigots today?
Ted
You could say that about any crime, Ted. The perpetrator could turn around and accuse the victim. Indeed, it happens all the time.
Someone is saying that Dana pushed them. It needs to be investigated. Dana needs to respond.
Remember Dana is a paid assistant to the author of this bill. If there is an allegation that she has engaged in violence against those who oppose the bill, that is very serious. It is what happens in dictatorships like Russia and Iran when citizens oppose those in power.
Anon, as far as I know, you are the only person alleging this incident. A comment on the Internet by someone who is too ashamed to give their name is not "very serious" by any standard.
JimK
I won't be baited into responding to this.
I will say that CRW has NO RIGHT to be on any Giant property today, as it is not a weekend. A blast email has gone out to the store managers of all the Giants in Montgomery County today, asking them to have any petitioners leave the premises.
So if any of you happen to be shopping and happen to see the extremists out in from of a Giant supermarket, all you have to do is go inside, ask for the manager, and tell him that Corporate has sent him a message that such solicitations today are to be ended forthwith.
I also imagine that any signatures collected in direct violation of company policy will be invalidated as well. But I'm not a lawyer.
anon said, "Someone is saying that Dana pushed them. It needs to be investigated. Dana needs to respond."
Dana does not need to do a thing. Sad attempt on your part anon.
Someone is saying...well now we must halt the presses and call all law enforcement.
Anon grow up.
Ted
"Anon, as far as I know, you are the only person alleging this incident. A comment on the Internet by someone who is too ashamed to give their name is not "very serious" by any standard."
Jim,
It's in the letter of Theresa's that you were pasting from earlier. If you have a different version, let me know and I'll paste my version.
Dana,
The fact that your main effort is to prevent the collection of signatures rather than rely on argumentation of your case speaks volumes. You simply don't want people to have the opportunity to sign this petition.
We rely on argumentation all the time. We argued during the consideration of this bill, and we argue with potential signers who, at best, get only one side of the issue, and at worst, and this occurred all the time, got nothing but lies. It is you who packed up and left when we appeared, because you couldn't handle debate. One of your more aggressive circulators refused to engage in debate at all, speaking nothing but insults at us while trying to collect signatures.
No civil rights law has ever been put up to a popular vote. That is not democracy. Period. I have better things to do than spend the next nine months fighting a referendum campaign, though I have thought that it would be a good thing, because people do need to be educated out of their ignorance, fear, and hate. Your side will not survive the exposure, since you obviously can't stand to have your photos taken or the fact that you've signed on to this made public. You're all still anonymous. Pathetic.
But we'll see.
anon wrote:" Jim, It's in the letter of Theresa's that you were pasting from earlier."
Yes anon we should all believe Theresa's version...NOT.
Press on this will be great in that the email Ruth sent out that notes the "strategy" of keeping the truth back from petition signers will be exposed more widely.
Imagine how the petition signers will feel seeing in press/news that they were duped by "Dr. Ruth" and "Rio Theresa."
Ted
"We rely on argumentation all the time."
Dana,
In a post above, you are urging people to try and get the petitioners thrown out of shopping centers where they can engage the public in conversation.
How is that relying on argumentation "all the time"? You are relying on reducing the opportunity for CRC to engage the public in a dialogue. Indeed, this is all the petition calls for- a dialogue on the wisdom of this law.
Well, AnonFreak, Ruth and Theresa--last Friday when I was handing out Decline to Sign fliers with Maryanne, one of the GRW(wieros) put his hand on my shoulder when I was trying to interrupt and correct one of his imaginary and made-up lies. It really made me uncomfortable and I felt threatened and concerned for my well-being.
"No civil rights law has ever been put up to a popular vote."
Dana,
Whether these special privileges for gays constitute civil rights is a regular feature on ballots for the last several decades. We all remember Anita Bryant's campaign in Florida way back in the 70s. The pro-gay forces lost that vote after it was discovered that some of their leaders were also members of NAMBLA.
Anon, why are you obsessed with NAMBLA? How many anti-gay rights leaders have been outed?
Ted
Somehow I got on their email list. I don't know how. I do love how they say that we have to stay 10 feet away from them and get in their face. When I told the woman at Montgomery Mall she was lying, she chased me down and got right in my face. I did complain to Westfield Shoppingtown and I notice they were not there this past Saturday and I notice it was not listed as a place to collect signatures. Perhaps Westfield came to its senses.
Red Baron, these are equal rights for gays, not special privileges. gays and transgenders seek the same right you religionists have to protected by the law from discrmination. It is you religionists who seek the special privilege of an exemption from having to follow the law. No gays or transgenders have ever sought the special privilege of being exempted from a law that everyone else has to follow.
They're not engaging the public in conversation. They are fear-mongering and hate-mongering, and when one of us is there it is only the most extremely religious or bigoted individuals who choose to sign.
You probably never finished high school, if you think bullying shoppers with "Do you know the County passed a law to allow men in the women's bathroom?" is conversation. You are a sad example of the failure of our educational system.
Of course, 20% of Americans think the sun revolves around the earth, 54% believe in creationism, and I would imagine that 80% discount Einstein's Theory of Gravitation as well.
"They're not engaging the public in conversation. They are fear-mongering and hate-mongering, and when one of us is there it is only the most extremely religious or bigoted individuals who choose to sign."
Sure, Dana. Any conversation that disagrees with the gay agenda is not real. Your implication that "extremely religious" people are "bigoted, fear-mongering and het-mongering" are perfect examples of why you don't belong at the City Council.
"You probably never finished high school, if you think bullying shoppers with "Do you know the County passed a law to allow men in the women's bathroom?" is conversation. You are a sad example of the failure of our educational system."
Your law will allow that. At least by any conventional definition of "men". You are a shameless liar if you're saying that wasn't an intention of the law you and Duch put through.
"Of course, 20% of Americans think the sun revolves around the earth,"
Well, that no doubt encompasses the 5% who believe you are whatever gender you think you are, regardless of your biological compostion.
"You probably never finished high school, if you think bullying shoppers with "Do you know the County passed a law to allow men in the women's bathroom?" is conversation."
An revealing statement when the ivy league educated Dana doesn't even know the meaning of the word "bully". Here it is:
"1 archaic a: sweetheart b: a fine chap
2 a: a blustering browbeating person; especially : one habitually cruel to others who are weaker b: pimp
3: a hired ruffian"
How does describing the effects of a bill, even if you grant the TTF conceit that CRC is wrong, constitute "bullying"?
Because you're lying, repeatedly, to people who have no idea about what you're talking. That's bullying. Telling people that I should have no right to use the women's bathroom, when I have every right to do so, legally, right now, is bullying. Insulting me, the medical profession and science, to get votes, is bullying. Creating hypotheticals which only a pedophile himself could imagine and hoisting that upon an unsuspecting public, is bullying. Creating an atmosphere where some religious zealot might actually do harm to someone like me is bullying.
I'm very impressed you know how to use a dictionary, sweetheart.
anon said, "I double-checked and I misread the information. It wasn't Theresa but some other CRC volunteer who has alleged that Dana violently pushed them."
Anon everyone knows that anyone including a CRC'r(CRWhatevers now) can allege anything even on initial on applying for a restraining order. The devil is in the details which will eventually come out in a court hearing or cannot be proved by the CRC'r in same. Lies to get a restraining order are exposed all the time in court.
The restraining order will be tossed if they manage to get a temp one in the first place.
Meanwhile the light will shine on CRC'rs or CRWhatever's activities and the actions based on lies will come out. Dr. Ruth and Rio Theresa will be exposed to the public once again as liars and hateful bigots along with their cast of followers.
By they way anon you do know that any community member can allege violence to apply to get a restraining order against any CRC'r or CRWhatevers?
Ted
Andrea- not anon
The Chevron is known for its public support of certain things. They wrote to the Gazette that business UNFAIRLY dropped during the last election when they were publicly supporting George Bush with signage. Now they have every right to support whomever they want- and as citizens, we have every right to buy gas where we want-plus the gas station right next to them is non-political and cheaper. Now for all I know the other gas station owner is supporting Mike Huckabee- but he doesn't advertise that. I would not go anymore because I would not want to give money to someone who might be turning around and giving that money to the Huckabee campaign.
Don't worry- I don't ever go to that Chevron and I am letting my neighborhood listserve know that they are supporting this homophobic campaign(not that anyone will be surprised).
Does Theresa think that Georgia Avenue belongs to the Chevron station? I am using our spy satellites as we speak to check on the petitioning locations and - Theresa, there is a big spot on your yellow coat.
Andrea- not anon said, "Does Theresa think that Georgia Avenue belongs to the Chevron station?"
Rio Theresa thinks the whole universe belongs to
the CRW(hatever)clan apparently.
Ted
Anonymous said: "Sure, Dana. Any conversation that disagrees with the gay agenda is not real. Your implication that "extremely religious" people are "bigoted, fear-mongering and het-mongering" are perfect examples of why you don't belong at the City Council."
That, dear intellectually-deprived Anonymous,(and it really is irrelevant whether Dana said or believes that) is what in our democracy we call "freedom of speech". That seems to be a subject that you and your cronies are always wailing about. You endorse freedom of speech as long as it is your warped views, but cannot stand it and would abolish freedom of speech for those who speak something you do not like. (We have had enough crap and assaults on our freedom from this loathsome administration in Washington...enough!)
And...just for your information...Dana's or anybody else's freedom of speech does not end when she reports to her work at the County (not the City) Counsel. Yes...even public officials linked to the Republican Party in Mongtomery County can stand up, give the Nazi salute, and shout "Heil Hitler" at the Council members.
btw...you do know that Dana is an employee of the County Council, not the City Council. I will be kind to you and attribute that to a slip of the tongue on your part.
Diogenes
RIO Theresa sends as a missive, "NOTE TO HARASSERS. THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, THEY HAVE VIDEO CAMERAS, AND WE WILL SUE. THE LAWSUIT IS ALREADY BEING PREPARED. YOU HAD BETTER HAVE DEEP POCKETS."
Threats---just because Rio Theresa and her cohorts got their pics taken and they were challenged in debate over the weekend. Lies can be challenged you know.
The CRW(hatevers) may not like it but it can be done.
Bet Johnny Garza needs to be in spolight again no matter how dumb. How many times has Johnny threatened to sue people? Quite a few if you read the blog archives.
Ted
Sure, let's see the CRW(eirdos) go to court, once again, and lose. It's almost like they love being made fun of. Wow-- counseling is needed!
Calm down, everyone; this phase of the battle is now over. We will not be anywhere near each other for the forseeable future, if ever again, so we won't need to restrain one another. Oh, maybe when they upgrade the algebra curriculum and the CRC fights the new curriculum because it was originally developed by Arabs during the Middle Ages.
It's kinda funny how the CRW thinks I am so ill disposed to religious people. I go to synagogue almost every week, I get involved in interfaith activities, and I'm friends with some of the worst anti-gay activists in Annapolis -- Don Dwyer, Rick Bowers, Nancy Jacobs. Some of my friends think I've lost my mind whenever they see me conversing with them.
Thing is, we treat each other as human beings. We speak and listen to each other. We don't lie to each other. We refer to one another with the correct pronouns, and speak respectfully. I know where they stand, they know where I stand. They have a religious position, with which I can argue quite articulately, given my religious upbringing. They also have a deep respect for my medical history and the struggles I've overcome in my life to get where I am. They respect that I am a physician and a scientist.
That is in distinct contrast to Ruth and Theresa, who have been insolent and rude from the very beginning in public spaces, and very restrained in having any personal interactions. Cooties, I guess. They dismiss me and others like me as mentally ill, refer to me with the incorrect pronouns, completely ignore my forty years of study of this issue with the scientific and medical tools they deride, and fall back on lies such as Theresa's in the last interview that this bill covers cross-dressers and transvestites, and demands indoctrination in schools.
I like Annapolis better. The Republicans there are more decent (unless they're caught with child pornography).
But this is a great example. Theresa can't stop portraying me as a potential pedophile, yet the clean-cut, white-bread heterosexual and cis-gendered delegate from the northwest turns out to be the real pedophile. My, oh my.
Dana.
I have never said you were a pedophile. Not once. I have never said that transgenders were pedophiles... not once. I do think that the law, given that it opens up ladies room to any person who feels his gender identity is female, will encourage "fake" transgenders to use the law to gain access.
I don't believe a transgender who still has male equipment has ANY BUSINESS in a ladies room, especially a shower/lockerroom area. They are the ones asking for "special rights', they can go into a unisex area... again, like the federal amendment. Your assertion that any born female who has an issue with a "feels" female person who still retains male equipment sharing her lockerroom should be forced into a unisex area is patently ridiculous. By the way Dana, how tall are you ? Was I incorrect in stating you were over 6 feet tall... if I was than I do apologize. Mary Ann, who was the other person pictured with our volunteer, also appeared to be over 6 ft. Mary Ann appears about your height ... if Mary Ann is not over 6 ft, again, I extend my apologies.
And I don't believe I have ever been rude to you in public. Please remind me of the incident? I did not make it a point to walk over and greet you on the parking lot while we were petitioning... From the police officer on duty, you had been asked to leave the premises by the Giant manager, you refused, the police were called, and then all 5 TTF'rs were forced to leave Giant owned property. There was a debate ongoing about whether the parking lot was Giant property when I arrived. Is that not your recollection of how this occurred ? I suppose we could always call the cops on duty for a statement if you disagree.
Have a nice day... but given what the count is at right now, I don't think you will :-)
theresa
Theresa,
You keep coming back to that one point with me, which is a point I have no problem with -- pre-op women in a common place of nudity. Fine. Had you asked for that language from the start you would have it, because none of us ever expose ourselves pre-operatively in a such a place. Never. There is no case on record, either, where that has happened.
However, over the past three days, I not once heard any of your circulators use that as the reason to get someone to sign. You've heard the litany, and I won't repeat it, because you trained them to say it. You trained them to use hate speech to discriminate against us because you -- YOU -- are afraid one of us might, during that small window of transition before surgery, expose ourself to you. That's ridiculous, and you know it.
OK, I accept you're a woman, and as such you know women are generally quite modest. Trans women are much more modest than you. So this has never happened, and will never happen. But FOX News today reported your lies, and showed women afraid that men would appear in the women's bathroom. Hey, I thought this was about areas of shared nudity? What happened to that?
And then there's the women talking about perceived gender identity, as if that is our feeling, when I explained yesterday and so many times before that it relates to how you perceive me, not how I perceive myself, so that you can't have me thrown out when my ID says "F" yet I look too masculine for you, or you too masculine for me.
You are fear-mongering and hate-mongering because of your own personal discomfort about a group of people, small in number, who've never posed and never will pose a threat to you. That's disgusting.
As for my height, I'm 5'11", thank you, and I am not intimidating to anyone but a liar.
As for that Giant, I know full well, having spoken with corporate headquarters, you were there in violation of your agreement with Giant, both because you were only granted one weekend and we saw you there the previous weekend, and because you had three, and not two, people there, again in violation. So stop this nonsense.
As for never having called me a pedophile -- every time you highlight me to your minions as the leader of the trans community, and then go on to rant about men in the ladies room, you make that association in people's minds and you make me a target for a hate crime. You think your Obersturmfuhrer makes a distinction you're willing to make on this blog? You think your circulators, who kept pointing at me and calling me "He," were telling people I could use the women's room but it's those pedophiles lying in wait who are a threat, and not me? Your little buddy, baseballcapsmoker guy, who sure sounded like he knew a lot about pedophiles, told shoppers that I shouldn't be able to use the bathroom. That's personal enough for me, and since he was your guy, you are responsible for him and his actions.
And that says nothing about calling us "abominations" and the like. These are your people, doing your work -- you are responsible. I had no problem taking credit for my (limited) role in this affair, yet you're the coward here for not standing up for your ignorant crowd and the hate they engendered.
So you should very much be ashamed of yourself.
As for having a good day, no, the past few days were not good days. Had you had to stand and defend your human rights to a crowd of lowlifes like many of your circulators, you would not have had a good day, either. As for the numbers, I have no idea, because I rarely believe anything you say. If the numbers you've reported to CBN and in your email are correct, then, no, you won't make the valid numbers. That's just the way it is. Our lawyers will see your lawyers at the Board of Elections.
Andrea- not anon
So Theresa can't count either- there were never 5 TTF people there. Perhaps you were confused by other decent citizens who refused to sign your piece of trash and gave me the thumbs up and spoke to me and thanked me for standing against your sort. By the way, T- the sad manager was intimidated by the lies of Baseball cap guy. The story the manager told the police officer was untrue, as we know now. Your little minions had no right to be at that Giant.
So tell us- was the third thug, who told me I should be aborted, prochoice? Cause I didn't think you people supported that.
From the police officer on duty, you had been asked to leave the premises by the Giant manager, you refused, the police were called, and then all 5 TTF'rs were forced to leave Giant owned property.
No, Theresa. That's not correct. The Giant manager never spoke to me. The police officer asked me to stay off the concrete sidewalk directly in front of the store for one hour until your 3 workers had promised the officer they'd leave, but he also said we were allowed to be on the asphalt of the parking lot. Andrea was the only TTFer there until Jim, Dana and I showed up, for a total of 4, not 5. And Andrea was in the parking lot the entire time I was there. Since almost no one was signing your petitions, 3 of us left and went to another location to continue educating the public about our views on extending anti-discrimination protection to cover gender identity as well as gender, age, religion and the rest.
Theresa on CBN looked and spoke exactly as the bigoted liar she is.
Her eyes kept darting all over the place. Just plan weird.
Ted
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