Sunday, July 26, 2009

Sunday Rumination

Summertime, you wouldn't know it. We have hardly had a hot day, at least not the unbearably hot days we get sometimes. This morning the sky is cloudy, it might make it up to the eighties but you're not going to sweat, there will either be rain or a breeze. Yesterday we had moments of drenching rain -- hey, we saw a double rainbow yesterday, did you see that?

This isn't going to be an issues-related post, I guess I'm a little burned out on issues. Well there almost aren't any. The right guys got elected, they're doing a good job, trying to put the government back into sensible order again. But you know, for some reason we have people who just want to stop that. Say health care. The president, the Democrats, have a plan, and what can you say, the idea is that sick people should be able to see a doctor, and the other side is against it. They don't have a better idea, there's no principle or intellectual difference of opinion, it's just that the Republicans don't want the Democrats to succeed. For us that are mostly healthy it's a chess game, people betting Monopoly money, but for a lot of people it really matters, you're going to live or you're going to die depending on how they resolve this. The Republicans are against it because they don't want the party that was elected to accomplish anything.

There are three big, interesting stories this week, it seems to me.

First, the Harvard professor who was busted trying to get into his own house. I saw a show once where they had a guy try to break into a car with the alarm blasting. His horn was honking, you know how that sounds, and he was standing there sliding a coat hanger down into the door trying to trip the lock. Did I mention it was a white guy? You know what people did, they did what you and I would do, they came over and tried to help him. But up there in Cambridge, a black guy couldn't get the door of his house to open, and he got a little upset about it (you and I never would) and the neighbors called the cops and they arrested the guy. For trying to get into his own house. And being uppity.

This is a beautiful story, it has everything. This wasn't just a black guy trying to get into his house, it was the Ultimate Black Guy, the W. E. B. DuBois professor of black studies at Harvard, an African-American brainiac and expert on how black guys get screwed by the cops. And perfect, the cop is giving him a hard time, and this professor comes back with "yo mama."

I was on a jury a few years ago where a black kid was busted in Rockville. He was driving down Rockville Pike in an old car and the cops stopped him for a cracked tail light. Jumped out, ran away, threw his dope on the ground, a respectable (e.g., white) citizen saw it. The kid's witnesses all wore orange jumpsuits. When was the last time you got stopped for a cracked tail light? In the jury room, a lady said, "I work in a hospital, I see this every day, he's guilty, let's get this over with." Poor people. I made them stay there all day, going through the evidence. Literally, he broke the law, he did have drugs, but he was only caught because the police stopped him for the very slightest violation. How many cars on Rockville Pike do you think have a baggy with something illegal in them? You don't know, it only matters if the cops decide to hassle you. Certain people get hassled more than others, let's say, and a large percentage of a certain demographic is in prison and on parole. This is a perfect news story to get a certain discussion rolling.

Now the President has invited the professor and the cop over to the White House for a beer. Is that cool or what? The last guy couldn't do that, if he'd had a beer he would've ended up chugging a case and then he would have, you know, played Truth or Dare with The Button or something. Here you got a professor who understands the fundamentals of racism in America, a cop who sounds like a good guy who got called to intervene in a bad situation, and the President who is black and might have a thought about it and said the whole deal was "stupid" and now has to be cool about it. So -- come on over, guys, let's have a beer and watch the game. That is actually the perfect solution.

Second story, C Street. Aunt Bea has been commenting in detail on the blog about this, Rachel Maddow has been following the story, there is something really important and creepy going on. There is a house on Capitol Hill where a number of politicians live and others visit. It is a Christian group, but not in any sense I ever heard of before. These guys believe they have been chosen by God to be leaders, and anything they do is all right as long as they retain power. A bunch of them are having sex with somebody who is not their wife, they have a budget of gazillions of dollars, all undocumented, they go around to foreign countries and make deals they have no business making. This has been going on for decades. You can say, there's nothing wrong with that, they're private citizens, they have freedom of religion, but ... it is creepy, the country's business is being conducted off the record by people that you just wouldn't trust. A guy joined the group and wrote a book about it. Here's what he said about Doug Coe, the leader of the group:
Doug Coe, David Coe’s father and leader of The Family fellowship going back to the mid ’60s, likes to call The Family “The Christian Mafia.” I knew Coe when I was part of The Family. He explained what it means to be a chosen politician.

Talking to another man, he said, “Let me explain to you the concept of ‘chosen.’ Suppose I hear you raped three little girls. What would I think of you?”

The man says, “You would think I was awful, a monster.”

And Doug Coe said, “No, I would not, because you’re chosen, and when you’re chosen, the normal rules don’t apply.”

These are people who believe that God has hand-picked them to run the world. the Divine Right of Kings has been granted them. I'm sorry, post-Magna Carta I don't think that works. People should not put up with this.

Third story this week: birthers.

People hear this and they will either laugh at it or buy it. There is some kind of story that the President is not an American. He was born in Kenya, or Indonesia, or something. It is impossible to imagine what the actual plan was, who is in on the conspiracy, how this works. True, the President is a black guy with the middle name "Hussein." He ain't your stereotypical President of the United States. And some people are having a hard time swallowing that. But really, people, get a grip. We voted, he won. This time there wasn't even any argument over the number of votes, everybody agrees he got a lot more votes than the other guy. He's smart, he's got six-pack abs, his wife is beautiful, he can hit a three-pointer on the first try. Everything hasn't gone perfectly in his first term, but come on, the guy is an American, he qualifies for the office. I watched Gordon Liddy on a TV show trying to question Obama's citizenship, and it was sad, there is simply no reason to believe he's not what he says he is. Liddy looked depressed, he's trying to believe something that there is no evidence for. But it's all these poor people have to cling to, they desperately want to believe he is not a natural born citizen. It would make their whole nightmare go away, we could get an old white guy in the White House again like we're supposed to have. This is just weird to watch, but you see there are a lot of them, a lot of people think with something other than their brains.

I'm up a little early today, listening to WPFW, drinking coffee. My mind is still a little blurry. Santana is ripping it up on the radio, this is good. Oh, now it's Stevie Wonder, "Isn't She Lovely." Back in the day I used to play the harmonica on that one, a chromatic harmonica, we played in the key of E. There are a couple of guys who play chromatic harmonica, Stevie Wonder being one of them, it is a great jazz instrument.

The band I'm playing in is doing pretty well. Every time we play people like us and we get booked back. We are a three-piece band, we play old rockabilly songs that everybody knows, mostly. This week we learned one that I wrote, and I think I will bring another one to rehearsal this week. We play restaurants and bars in Montgomery County, mostly up here around Rockville where we all live, and it really is fun. But here's the thing: I want a Wammy. I don't want to just be another band of old guys doing old songs, I want to be the best. We are booked pretty solidly, we have a couple of weeks off starting now but we have gigs every weekend, just about.

I'm glad to have this weekend off, people, I'm going to go fishing. I used to fly fish every day, then kids came along and I would fish with the little ones but it's not the same thing. We're going to go up to Pennsylvania where there are some of the best trout streams in the world, and I'm going to whip a fly-line out there and see if I can manage to catch one or two. Most of my fishing was in California, and out here the streams are smaller, you need lighter tackle, so I got a new rod and line. It's going to take some getting used to, I stood out in the parking lot at the Orvis store in Bethesda casting and I think it will come back to me.

I fish because I have always had a recurrent dream of fishing. There are many variations on it, but always there is something in the water that I can't quite see, and I try to catch it, it is something deep, dark, mysterious. I never catch a fish in my dreams, I only know they're there. Sometime in the eighties I decided to follow the dream, and I began fishing for bass. Then, I can't explain this but my beard turned gray and so I shaved it off and decided to fly-fish for trout. It all went together, I used to tie my own flies and I went out every day back when I was single. Fly-fishing is different, the fly has no weight so you cast by waving the line back and forth in the air, you hope the fish -- usually trout -- will think your lure is a bug that they like to eat. It takes patience and is frustrating, you lose a lot of expensive stuff in trees and bushes. There is something low-tech and primitive about it, and elegant. I am eager to catch a nice fat German brown trout in Pennsylvania. I'll pull the hook out of his mouth and put him back in the water, and maybe somebody else will catch him another day.

This week I had surgery on my guitar. This might not mean much to you, but I play a certain model of Fender Stratocaster that was only made in 1983. It was an experimental model with a lot of different features, including a new kind of wammy bar. If you don't play, I'll tell you, a wammy bar is a lever that you can press to reduce the tension on the strings, so the pitch will drop. Sometimes you can raise it, too, but you don't usually do that, you can bend the strings to raise the pitch. The original wammy bar on my model of Strat, called the Stratocaster Elite, simply didn't work. The instrument wouldn't play in tune. So like everybody else I replaced it. Well, this year the replacement part wore out, and I have had a problem staying in tune. I did some research on the Internet and picked a new one, ordered it, went to Chuck Levins in Wheaton and talked to the guys, and they installed it. Partly it means routing out the wood of the body of the guitar, and actually I don't even want to know about that. It's like when they draw blood from your arm and you look away. They did a beautiful job on it, I played it Friday night in Rockville and did not have to tune up once. It has changed the sound and feel of the guitar, though, and I'll have to get used to it. The sound now is more percussive and maybe it has less sustain, and the strings are a little lower than they used to be but I can get used to that. Most guys like the action low, I tend to like it higher where I can grab the strings and bend them.

There are all kinds of ways to approach the guitar. I'm a rocker, I guess I have a little country side to me, I like to play fast and loud. Out in California I used to have some friends that played together, they had a lot of Les Paul and Chet Atkins things worked out, fast harmonies. Sonny was a little older and had arthritis when I knew him, he was in his last days of playing, but Chris was my age, and we even had a band together at one point. Chris and Sonny played together like one person, their twin guitar parts were fluid and complex. Sometimes people would come over and Chris and Sonny would play for them, you know, five or six people, and those two would tear it up, How High the Moon, Honeysuckle Rose, some old Bob Wills things. Chris and I got tight, he was left-handed so we couldn't switch off but we had a band where I played bass, we had a house gig near the beach. At closing time, packing up, he knew these nasty songs, corruptions of tunes everybody knew, man they were funny! I have known a few country guys like that, they'll sing Waylon and Willie while they PA is on, but they have this alternative repertoire that you'd never guess, they seem like such nice guys. Chris and Sonny had a whole different approach to the guitar, they played pretty, subtle, it was countryish, jazz-ish, they didn't care much about blues or any rock and roll, they simply loved to play music. I wonder what they're doing now. I tend to bang on it, I like to get people on the dance floor, if people are dancing I play better. Chris and Sonny just played because they loved that music and they loved playing together. They didn't want to get paid for it or anything, Chris and Sonny just liked playing.

Hey, it was raining a little bit ago and now the sun's out. Yesterday we saw a big double rainbow, did you see that? When I moved to the East that was something I missed, we used to have rainbows in Arizona all the time, at least in late summer, in the monsoon season, but out here you hardly ever see them. This week I have seen rainbows twice, including the double one yesterday. Nice.

I've got chores to do, I need to get some polarized sunglasses and there are a couple of other things I want to accomplish today, bills are piling up, you know, stuff. It is a beautiful day out there, clear sunshine, the slightest breeze, I'm going to hop in the car and get out there.

29 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andrea- not anon
You mention the birthers(the people who thought - and some who still think - the President was not born in the US) As I pointed out before the election to two birthers who work in my office(well, no one is surprised the gov't has plenty of educated and uneducated dopes), if this was so- wouldn't the Clinton campaign or the McCain campaign proved it- or how about his opponent when he ran for Senate? They both got confused looks on their faces and seemed to be trying to think about it- one of them got confirmation of my point from her husband(sad, that she couldn't figure this one out herself). yea, Hillary, John and Princess Sarah spent millions upon millions but never bothered to try to check this out(not!).

This week is the beginning of my 6 month countdown to retirement from the gov't.

July 26, 2009 4:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We have hardly had a hot day, at least not the unbearably hot days we get sometimes."

Sometimes, as in 20 years ago.

One of the many effects of "global warming" is that Washington summers have gotten cooler.

Go figure.

July 27, 2009 7:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This isn't going to be an issues-related post,"

guess you changed your mind after this part, huh?

"I guess I'm a little burned out on issues."

that happened long ago

"The right guys got elected, they're doing a good job, trying to put the government back into sensible order again."

oh yeah, this is great

like when they designed a "stimulus" bill that wasn't too stimulatin' and we got 10% unemployment after being promised it would max out at 8%

or the day to day stuff like attacking a police officer without having the facts

or, back to the biggies, agreeing to discuss giving up misile defense with the Russians when the Russians don't have missile defense

we could go on....

"But you know, for some reason we have people who just want to stop that."

guilty as charged

"Say health care."

OK, let's just say that.

"The president, the Democrats, have a plan, and what can you say, the idea is that sick people should be able to see a doctor, and the other side is against it."

actually, sick people generally see doctors now

that's not the problem

the Democrats don't have a plan, they have pots of plans

after lying to the American people, Obama has now admitted that national health care will cost lots of money and, guess what, he wants to increase taxes

one big idea they do agree on is that we will make everyone get health insurance just we make everyone get car insurance

brilliant, why didn't I think of that?

"They don't have a better idea,"

sure they do

it's called litigation reform and it would dramatically lower the cost of health insurance

we should all remember that John McCain was attacked for his plan to tax health insurance benefits but now the Chief Hypocrite has embraced the idea

"there's no principle or intellectual difference of opinion,"

other than that trivial matter of governmental control over every aspect of your life and how monopolization leads to incompetence

if you like public schools or Metro, you'll love having Barney Frank deciding whether you should have that life-saving operation or whether that money would be better spent building a bridge to nowhere

ever talk to someone from Canada?

"it's just that the Republicans don't want the Democrats to succeed"

that's true

they don't want them to succeed in ruining our chance of economic health and continued quality of health care

July 27, 2009 8:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

btw, half of the uninsured in America already qualify for governmental assistance and don't know it

most of the rest are young people who have voluntarily withdrawn to stretch their dollars

July 27, 2009 9:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"First, the Harvard professor who was busted trying to get into his own house."

actually, he wasn't arrested for that

he was arrested for disorderly conduct because of his alleged overreaction to a police officer trying to protect his property

"I saw a show once where they had a guy try to break into a car with the alarm blasting. His horn was honking, you know how that sounds, and he was standing there sliding a coat hanger down into the door trying to trip the lock. Did I mention it was a white guy? You know what people did, they did what you and I would do, they came over and tried to help him. But up there in Cambridge, a black guy couldn't get the door of his house to open, and he got a little upset about it (you and I never would) and the neighbors called the cops and they arrested the guy. For trying to get into his own house. And being uppity."

you weren't there so you don't know how Gates was acting but whites do get arrested for this

the person who called 911 was an olive-skinned woman of Portugese descent

she didn't mention the race to the dispatcher but said she just saw Gates and his assistant from behind and thought they were Hispanic

Gates didn't have any identification so he should have been understanding of the position of the police officer not approach the situation with a chip on his shoulder

"This is a beautiful story, it has everything. This wasn't just a black guy trying to get into his house, it was the Ultimate Black Guy, the W. E. B. DuBois professor of black studies at Harvard, an African-American brainiac and expert on how black guys get screwed by the cops. And perfect, the cop is giving him a hard time, and this professor comes back with "yo mama.""

You don't know that the police officer was giving him a hard time any more than Sir Barry O did but I think the "yo mama" crack sounds racist.

"people get hassled more than others, let's say, and a large percentage of a certain demographic is in prison and on parole"

just because a certain race is over-represented doesn't necessarily mean there is racism in enforcing the law

"Now the President has invited the professor and the cop over to the White House for a beer. Is that cool or what?"

It's what.

Sir BO hasn't even admitted that he was wrong. He just says his words were "ill-advised", as if this attack on the police was nothing but a political faux pas.


"Here you got a professor who understands the fundamentals of racism in America,"

I haven't read his books so i wouldn't say that and I bet you haven't read them either.

"a cop who sounds like a good guy who got called to intervene in a bad situation,"

who may have done nothing at all wrong

"and the President who is black and might have a thought about it and said the whole deal was "stupid""

yes, a president who spent too many years listening to a weekly sermon from a racist preacher

"and now has to be cool about it."

You're right about that.

It's just a political move.

He doesn't get it.

July 27, 2009 12:15 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

10% unemployment after being promised it would max out at 8%

Wrong! If you **think** you're right, prove it -- go find a quote where Obama made such a "promise."

What Obama did was to make a prediction many months ago, based on analysis of the available economic data then. As additional data came in and was analyzed, Bloomberg reported Obama revised that prediction in June:

"June 17 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama offered stern words for Wall Street and a prediction of 10 percent U.S. unemployment even as he said the “engines” of an economic recovery have begun to turn. "

Contrast that to a real broken campaign promise everyone might remember. On September 29, 2000, Bush made a campaign speech in Saginaw, Michigan, and said:

...Fifth, as we promote electricity and renewable energy, we will work to make our air cleaner. With the help of Congress, environmental groups and industry, we will require all power plants to meet clean air standards in order to reduce emissions of sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury and carbon dioxide within a reasonable period of time. And we will provide market-based incentives, such as emissions trading, to help industry achieve the required reductions.

But in reality, "This was the most significant environmental commitment made under the campaign, and the president [Bush] walked away from it in exactly 53 days. I think it's very unfortunate that he has brought into question not only his integrity on environmental issues but his lead on EPA -- Christie Todd Whitman on this. Christie Todd Whitman has been a forceful proponent of protecting the president on this, and leading up on his promise to support a four-key agenda and unfortunately, while she was out front on this, the president sawed off the limb from underneath her. I think it's very unfortunate.

Debbie Reed was kind to call Bush's lack of leadership on environmental issues "unfortunate." In fact, his lack of leadership by offering only voluntary measures to arrest environment degradation, was foolhardy and arrogant. So what else is new?

One of the many effects of "global warming" is that Washington summers have gotten cooler.

Go figure.


During this summer of 2009, as a result of Bush's inaction on the environment, we have seen kids building snowmen in June in New Jersey and an unheard of algae bloom in Alaska, and Anon **thinks** these aberrations point to something other than global warming.

As usual, those who wear blinders and view only partial data, draw mistaken conclusions about weather abnormalities. You have to view and analyze all the data in order to be able to draw valid conclusions.

July 27, 2009 2:53 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

the person who called 911 was an olive-skinned woman of Portugese descent

she didn't mention the race to the dispatcher but said she just saw Gates and his assistant from behind and thought they were Hispanic


What difference does the woman's skin color make to you, Anon?

AOL NEWS reports:

...In the 911 recording released Monday, caller Lucia Whalen tells police she saw two men pressing on the door of a home, but says she is unsure whether the men live there or if they were trying to break in. She said she saw two suitcases on the porch.

"I don't know if they live there and they just had a hard time with their key. But I did notice they used their shoulder to try to barge in and they got in. I don't know if they had a key or not cause I couldn't see from my angle," Whalen said.

Whalen does not mention the race of the men she saw until pressed by a dispatcher to describe them. At that point, she said one of the men may have been Hispanic...

..."I'm up with a gentleman says he resides here, but was uncooperative, but keep the cars coming," Crowley said...


The witness made it clear that she didn't know what was going on, she was not sure of the race of the men on the porch, and she even said that it might have been the resident trying to get into his own home.

How many back-up cop cars does a racial profiling expert officer need to handle one old "gentleman" with a crutch who is upset about having a policeman in his home, asking him questions, after he already proved it was his home? What does Crowley teach his students about shows of force and "uncooperative" "gentlemen?" Did he follow his own lesson plan on this one? Perhaps not since the charges were dropped.

...this attack on the police...

This is what Anon is calling an "attack on the police:"

"Now, I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that, but I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge Police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home; and number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there is a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately. That's just a fact."

Don't forget the fact that the Cambridge Police Department dropped the charges that were the basis of the arrest. The City of Cambridge reached a similar conclusion as the President. AOL NEWS reported last week:

...The city of Cambridge called the arrest "regrettable and unfortunate," and police and Gates agreed that dropping the charge was a just resolution — though not one that quelled the anger of one of America's top academics...

July 27, 2009 3:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sir Barry O didn't have the facts to base his statement on

Gates didn't have proof he was the resident

according to the police, Gates was further demonstrably pitching a fit

maybe he already had a few of those beers he wants Obama to chug with him

he must be quite the pill since his neighbors don't even recognize him

he might have been old although he looks fine to me in all the pictures but he or his associate could have, theoretically, had a gun

no reason to take a chance when this guy is raising such a ruckus

might as well call for back-up

also a good idea to have more witnesses in case someone starts slinging charges of racism

our police do dangerous and necessary work

to have the leader of our country say they are acting stupidly is fodder for criminal justification and an attack on them

I couldn't care less what color anyone's skin is, the caller, the police officer, the president, the professor..

you're the one making this out to be a racial profiling case so the woman's race could be a factor in the dubious discussion began by the lunatic chorus

July 27, 2009 4:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous"
Do you "own" this blog site? You sure take up a lot of space with your babbling and unctuous judgments of everybody else. Do you think you actually convince anybody who takes the time to read your "diarrhea of the mouth" pronouncements?
Perhaps you should consider taking your tripe to another blog site where others of your ilk will mumble their agreement with your blather.
Go away...you are tiresome and boring.
Anonymous

July 27, 2009 10:44 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

Sir Barry O didn't have the facts to base his statement on

President Obama responded to Lynn Sweet question and pointed that out. He said, "Now, I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts..."

Gates didn't have proof he was the resident

The transcript of the 911 and police radio dispatches in the Arrrest of Henry Louis Gates Jr. shows:

...OFFICER1: Going to give the name of the resident, a Henry Louis Gates Jr. of the Harvard faculty...

Gates provided his Harvard ID according to Officer Crowley's report, in which he wrote:

"...I asked Gates to provide me with a photo identification so that I could verify that her resided at [redacted] Ware Street and so that I could radio my findings to the ECC. Gates initially refused, demanding that I show him identification but then did supply me with a Harvard University identification card..."

So the name and occupation on the ID the matched the name and occupation given on the police radio identified as "the resident."

according to the police, Gates was further demonstrably pitching a fit

Each one of us is free to do so in the privacy of our own home, especially when a police officer comes to your door questioning you about why you're there, inside your own home.

maybe he already had a few of those beers he wants Obama to chug with him

You bring up self-medicating with regularity here.

Bottoms up!

Glub glub glub

he must be quite the pill since his neighbors don't even recognize him

You will spin any lie, won't you. In fact, the single witness who called the police was Lucia Whalen. She is not a resident, but works nearby. She was at enough of a distance from Professor Gates' porch to say she was "not really sure" if the two men she saw were Hispanic or not, and she also said she didn't know if the men lived there or not and that there were two suitcases on the front porch.

he might have been old although he looks fine to me in all the pictures but he or his associate could have, theoretically, had a gun

The driver who had helped Professor Gates get inside his home had left by the time Officer Crowley arrived. Crowley's police report makes no mention of a second male being there.

no reason to take a chance when this guy is raising such a ruckus

Police are trained to back away from irate, non-violent citizens in their own homes. Why didn't Crowley follow his training?

might as well call for back-up

There were more policemen present than neighbors when Professor Gates was taken from the front door of his home in handcuffs. This photo of him being removed from his house in handcuffs shows just how threatening Gates is not. He's half a head shorter than either of the two cops on the porch deck with him and you can clearly see how slender he is compared to all the three cops. Not a very threatening looking guy IMHO that a fit cop like Crowley should feel the need for back up of these 3 cops and who knows how many more. Crowley's report does not provide information about the total number of officers, both Cambridge and Harvard, who were present when Office Crowley made his soon-to-be-dropped arrest charges.

July 28, 2009 8:40 AM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

to have the leader of our country say they are acting stupidly is fodder for criminal justification and an attack on them

Now you're getting it! We've been telling you for years that saying things like the nasty names you use for LGBT people, for example, "is fodder for criminal justification and an attack on them." And if you think saying they "acted stupidly" is "fodder for criminal justification," do I need to remind you of what you've said about LGBT people or what some of your fellow right wingers say about minorities?

I couldn't care less what color anyone's skin is, the caller, the police officer, the president, the professor..

you're the one making this out to be a racial profiling case so the woman's race could be a factor in the dubious discussion began by the lunatic chorus


Both parties have claimed false assumptions were made about them based on their race. On this thread, however, you're the one who brought up the race of the woman as if her race had some bearing on the matter. It doesn't. In fact she has come forward with her attorney to correct "misinformation" about her call to the police to tell them what she saw.

"...[Lucia] Whalen, who works nearby, called the police because she was aware of recent burglaries in the area, according to a statement issued Sunday by attorney Wendy Murphy. Murphy said Whalen wanted to issue a statement to correct "misinformation" that she reported two black men appeared to be breaking into a home in the mostly white neighborhood.

"Are they white, black or Hispanic?" the dispatcher asked Whalen during the call reporting a possible burglary in progress.

"Well, there were two larger men. One looked kind of Hispanic, but I'm not really sure. And the other one entered and I didn't see what he looked like at all," Whalen responded, adding that she saw the men from a distance..."


Lucia Whalen describes herself as olive skinned, but Crowley's report says:

"...As I reached the door, a female voice called out to me. I turned and looked in the direction of the voice and observed a white female, later identified as Lucia Whalen..."

This error in judgement gives us some idea as to Officer Crowley's ability to observe things as they are, not through some racial filter. **cough**

Lucia Whalen said she was far from the men and could not tell if they were black or white or brown when she called in her report.

A transcript of the police radio the day of the arrest shows the police dispatcher relayed the correct information to the officers responding to the call about the unknown race of the two men:

"...CONTROL1: 17 Ware Street, uhm, both S-P's are still in the house, unknown on the race. Ah, one may be Hispanic I'm not sure..."

So why did Crowley's report say:

"...She went on to tell me that she observed what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the porch..."

July 28, 2009 8:40 AM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

Lucia Whalen wants to know why Officer Crowley lied about what she said too:

AOL NEWS reports:

"...In Crowley's report, he said he spoke to Whalen at the scene and she reported seeing two black men on the porch.

Whalen's attorney, Wendy Murphy, said her client did not mention the men's race to Crowley and is upset by news reports she believes have unfairly depicted her as a racist.

"She doesn't live in the area. She is by no means the entitled white neighbor. ... That has been the theme in the blogs and the implication in some of the mainstream news media," Murphy said in a phone interview Monday...."


She must be talking about the right wing blogs you read, Anon. The nice lady who reported the suspicious behavior, with plenty of caveats about suitcases on the porch and maybe it was the residents having trouble getting in, did **not** tell the cop she saw black men because she didn't. Due to her distance from them, she couldn't even tell if one of them might have been Hispanic or not.

There are legitimate questions as to why this racial profiling police trainer put the lie about Whalen saying the two men were black into his official police report, as well as why he misidentified Ms. Whalen's skin color as white. Why did he make the arrest in the first place when he already knew Gates was in his own home and a professor at Harvard, and the charges ended up being dropped? Why didn't he give Professor Gates his card when Gates asked him for his name and badge number? Why did he call for a back up show of force, twice, when there was no indication of any physical treat by Professor Gates against him? Why he didn't use his professional judgment to leave the irate but non-violent Professor Gates to fix his damaged front door and settle back into his home after he got home from his trip?

July 28, 2009 8:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as anon-B spins through all the facts for endless post after post, she unintentionally makes the main concern about Sir Barry O's very apparent:

the facts are far from established, even now, so the President, making a judgment about the police without facts made a stupid mistake

it's because he's experienced and should never have been elected to be leader of the free world

this time it's a minor incidents but he will be called on to make decisions with enormous impact

the best thing Americans can do to correct this is to return control of Congress to Republicans next year

it appears there are starting by having Republicans sweep the governor contests in 2009: New Jersey and Virginia

"You sure take up a lot of space with your babbling and unctuous judgments of everybody else"

the President is the one who made an "unctuous judgment", Dio

get your facts and act straight!

July 28, 2009 10:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

on to phase 2 on Jim's "non-issues" post on Sunday:

"Second story, C Street. Anon-B has been commenting in detail on the blog about this, Rachel Maddow has been following the story, there is something really important and creepy going on."

Actually, it's nothing creepy at all.

You're displaying your religiophobia.

"There is a house on Capitol Hill where a number of politicians live and others visit. It is a Christian group, but not in any sense I ever heard of before."

You don't get around much.

It's a fellowship and prayer support group for people in a certain field.

"These guys believe they have been chosen by God to be leaders,"

Most Christians believe they have been chosen by God to do what they're doing.

It's the biblical view.

"and anything they do is all right as long as they retain power."

No, they don't believe that.

"A bunch of them are having sex with somebody who is not their wife,"

Well, those weren't the group leaders and no one is saying that it's "all right".

Furthermore, I don't believe two represent a "bunch", considering the scores of individuals who have been involved with the group over the decades.

That's actually an example of TTF propaganda!

"they have a budget of gazillions of dollars, all undocumented,"

Why do you say their budget is undocumented?

It's not public but neither is the budget of any other religious organization.

They comply with the law and are a 501c3.

Like all c3s, they document that their expenditures are in furtherance of their mission.

"they go around to foreign countries and make deals they have no business making"

If they have contacts with both sides of a negotiation and can help facilitate a deal, so what?

Those in the secular world commonly do that.

Again, you're displaying religiophobia.

"This has been going on for decades. You can say, there's nothing wrong with that, they're private citizens, they have freedom of religion, but ... it is creepy, the country's business is being conducted off the record by people that you just wouldn't trust."

Most Americans would trust these guys and, besides, every citizen is free to seek the same kind of involvement.

Saying "the country's business is being conducted" by these guys is again TTF propaganda.

Elected officials conduct the country's business and citizens seek to influence the officials.

It's called representative democracy.

I like it.

Also, the ministry of C Street is toward the individual not the government.

You, and Anon-B and R-Maddow, simply have extrapolated way too far.

It's called paranoia.

You like it.

July 28, 2009 11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A guy joined the group and wrote a book about it:

Doug Coe, David Coe’s father and leader of The Family fellowship going back to the mid ’60s, likes to call The Family “The Christian Mafia.”

I knew Coe when I was part of The Family.

He explained what it means to be a chosen politician."

Uh, why not repeat what Coe told him?

Because out-of-context hearsay is more interesting if you're trying to sell a book:

"Talking to another man, he said, “Let me explain to you the concept of ‘chosen.’

Suppose I hear you raped three little girls. What would I think of you?”

The man says, “You would think I was awful, a monster.”

And Doug Coe said, “No, I would not, because you’re chosen, and when you’re chosen, the normal rules don’t apply.”"

Sounds like a part of a larger conversation that has been misconstrued.

Might be better for the writer to stick with conversations he was actually a part of.

The people in this fellowship don't, in fact, believe it's OK for leaders to rape little girls.

I would especially question the part about "normal rules don't apply".

Let's see if someone can come up with some actual documentation of such a statement.

"These are people who believe that God has hand-picked them to run the world. the Divine Right of Kings has been granted them. I'm sorry, post-Magna Carta I don't think that works."

Even after the Magna Carta, Christians worldwide, including American Christians believe leaders, like all other people, are placed by God where they are for a reason.

"People should not put up with this."

Few would consider themselves to be "putting up" with anything.

Other than a handful of militant, evangelical atheists, most Americans fully support, not only freedom of religion, but religious activity.

Ah, well.

On to phase 3 of Jim's "non-issues" post on Sunday....

July 28, 2009 11:03 AM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

the facts are far from established, even now, so the President, making a judgment about the police without facts made a stupid mistake

Don't you get any unspun news in your darkened bunker, Anon?

The President already said he made a mistake, apologized for his mistake, spoke to both of the men involved in the disagreement, and invited them both over to the White House for a conversation on Thursday.

Also, with the release of items yesterday -- because the Cambridge Police Department wants to be transparent and not hide any facts (how refreshing!) -- certain facts have been established.

1. Officer Crowley's police report about the incident was released by the Cambridge Police Department and is found here.

2. The transcript of the Cambridge Police Department's tapes of the "911 Call And Police Radio Dispatches in the Arrest of Henry Louis Gates Jr." is found here.

3. Wendy J. Murphy, Lucia Whalen's attorney was on ABC News last night and pointed out that Ms. Whalen never said the men were black. Also on ABC News last night, we heard Commissioner Robert Haas of the Cambridge Police Department say, "With this whole experience, I've already identified a number of things that, for myself and for the department, that we can do differently and do better."

Hopefully one of the things they will do "differently and better" will be to end the practice of questioning and then arresting someone for being upset at the police questioning about what they are doing in their own home.

July 28, 2009 2:34 PM  
Anonymous Cambridge Police: Simply the Best said...

"The President already said he made a mistake, apologized for his mistake, spoke to both of the men involved in the disagreement, and invited them both over to the White House for a conversation on Thursday."

He just said he made a poor choice of words. He never admitted how horribly wrong he was to say the police acted stupidly when he didn't have the facts.

He should have the whole Cambridge police department, who were all insulted by him, down for the keg party and Barry O's buddy, Gates, should pour the beer and personally thank them for protecting his house from suspicious looking characters doing suspicious looking things.

When is BO going to say Gates "acted stupidly"?

July 28, 2009 3:43 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

When is BO going to say Gates "acted stupidly"?

President Obama will never say that. Why not? Because as most of us learn early in childhood, two wrongs do not make a right.

President Obama did, however, say:

...I continue to believe, based on what I have heard, that there was an overreaction in pulling Professor Gates out of his home to the station. I also continue to believe, based on what I heard, that Professor Gates probably overreacted as well. My sense is you’ve got two good people in a circumstance in which neither of them were able to resolve the incident in the way that it should have been resolved and the way they would have liked it to be resolved.

The fact that it has garnered so much attention I think is a testimony to the fact that these are issues that are still very sensitive here in America. So to the extent that my choice of words didn’t illuminate, but rather contributed to more media frenzy, I think that was unfortunate.

What I’d like to do then I make sure that everybody steps back for a moment, recognizes that these are two decent people, not extrapolate too much from the facts — but as I said at the press conference, be mindful of the fact that because of our history, because of the difficulties of the past, you know, African Americans are sensitive to these issues. And even when you’ve got a police officer who has a fine track record on racial sensitivity, interactions between police officers and the African American community can sometimes be fraught with misunderstanding.

My hope is, is that as a consequence of this event this ends up being what’s called a “teachable moment,” where all of us instead of pumping up the volume spend a little more time listening to each other and try to focus on how we can generally improve relations between police officers and minority communities, and that instead of flinging accusations we can all be a little more reflective in terms of what we can do to contribute to more unity...


Sybil, who seems to prefer 'pumping up the volume' to 'listening to each other and trying to improve relations,' said: He just said he made a poor choice of words. He never admitted how horribly wrong he was to say the police acted stupidly when he didn't have the facts.

The Cambridge Commissioner of Police said:

I've already identified a number of things that, for myself and for the department, that we can do differently and do better.

Apparently, unlike Sybil who possesses few facts but plenty of right wing spin, Commissioner Haas does **not** feel President Obama was "terribly wrong." In fact, like President Obama, Commissioner Haas said he "has identified a number of things....[the Cambridge Police Department] can do differently and do better."

There's no hope for Sybil, but it appears the Cambridge Police Department has recognized this "teachable moment" and will learn from it.

July 28, 2009 4:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Commissioner Haas is being diplomatic.

"it appears the Cambridge Police Department has recognized this "teachable moment" and will learn from it"

I almost forgot the most outrageous aspect of this whole thing: Sir B.O. screws up and he calls it a teachable moment for the rest of us.

Get this straight: it hasn't beem established that the police in Cambridge did anything wrong although I don't blame the officer for taking advantage of the invitation to the White House.

He can see what a mess the Os have made of the place.

Maybe they can do a re-enactment.

Barry O can go outside and try to break down the door and then the officer can him and Gates can go ballistic.

They can film the whole thing and put it on youtube.

July 28, 2009 5:16 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

it hasn't beem established that the police in Cambridge did anything wrong

Yes it has. The charges they placed against Professor Gates have been dropped, and Commissioner Haas has said he has already found things his department can do differently and better.

July 28, 2009 5:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry, Anon-B, you're wrong

again, the police guy is just being diplomatic and conciliatory

they did nothing wrong

"Gen. Colin Powell says that Harvard Professor Henry Louis "Skip" Gates could have avoided arrest and the ensuing controversy by just talking calmly to Cambridge, Mass., Police Sgt. James Crowley and coming outside his house.

"I'm saying Skip, perhaps in this instance, might have waited a while, come outside, talked to the officer and that might have been the end of it," Powell says in an interview with Larry King, airing Tuesday night on CNN.

Powell added that the whole incident "might have been resolved in a different manner if we didn't have this verbal altercation between the two of them.""

July 28, 2009 11:36 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

Powell added that the whole incident "might have been resolved in a different manner if we didn't have this verbal altercation between the two of them.""

Oh good, another Obama supporter feels like Obama and I do. Both Officer Crowley and Professor Gates overreacted. Things definitely would have "been resolved in a different manner" if both of them had kept cooler heads. Now's the time to take the heat of that flashpoint between them and turn it into light to "improve relations between police officers and minority communities."

Let's hope tomorrow's meeting at the White House is a first step in fixing what went wrong that day.

July 29, 2009 8:48 AM  
Anonymous Cambrideg Police: Simply the Best said...

wrong, Anon-B

he said the incident could have been avoided by one person changing his attitude

he's the one that caused the incident and "could have avoided arrest and the ensuing controversy by just talking calmly to Cambridge, Mass., Police Sgt. James Crowley and coming outside his house"

we're still awaiting his apology

it won't come because he has an attitude problem

Sgt Crowley was protecting his property

but, Obama is a right about one thing

this was a teachable moment and we've all been taught that the inexperienced fellow we elected president is a loose cannon who is liable to talk before thinking

we'll have to watch him like a hawk

July 29, 2009 9:06 AM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

Once again, Sybil tells half the story.

Is that all Colin Powell said about the disagreement? No, he pointed out both parties were at fault.

CNN.com reports

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former Secretary of State Colin Powell said Tuesday that he has been the victim of racial profiling but believes Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. could have been more patient with the police officer who arrested him.

At the same time, Powell also faulted the Cambridge (Massachusetts) Police Department for escalating the situation beyond a reasonable level.

"I think Skip [Gates], perhaps in this instance, might have waited a while, come outside, talked to the officer and that might have been the end of it," Powell said in an interview with CNN's Larry King.

"I think he should have reflected on whether or not this was the time to make that big a deal.

"I think in this case the situation was made much more difficult on the part of the Cambridge Police Department," Powell said. "Once they felt they had to bring Dr. Gates out of the house and to handcuff him, I would've thought at that point, some adult supervision would have stepped in and said 'OK look, it is his house. Let's not take this any further, take the handcuffs off, good night Dr. Gates.'.. "

(click the link above to read the full article)

Spin spin spin, Sybil, and don't forget "to watch him like a hawk"

July 29, 2009 12:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well, not being there, Powell doesn't know how out of control Gates was so he doesn't have any basis for judging the police action

Powell knew Gates personally though and his comments about Gates' action were informed by this personal knowledge and, thus, more relevant

Gates owes the police an apology and so does Obama

those two should have the whole department down to the White Tavern (aka White House) and should fetch their beers while thanking them for protecting citizens from suspicious activity

it's only right

July 29, 2009 1:14 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

It's interesting to note that GOP Sen. George V. Voinovich, from Ohio recently voiced criticism of conservative Southerners. Senator Voinovich, when recently asked to state "The GOP's biggest problem," said:

“We got too many Jim DeMints (R-S.C.) and Tom Coburns (R-Ok.). It’s the southerners. They get on TV and go 'errrr, errrrr.' People hear them and say, ‘These people, they’re southerners. The party’s being taken over by southerners. What they hell they got to do with Ohio?’ ”

I don't know about Ohio, but southern conservatives like the one who just posted above:

...those two [Gates and Obama] should have the whole [Cambridge Police] department down to the White Tavern (aka White House) and should fetch their beers while thanking them...

have plenty to do with causing GOP approval ratings to tumble IMHO.

Americans voted for change in landslide proportions in November 2008. They did not want to continue with the S.O.S.

Glub glub glub

July 29, 2009 3:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Americans voted for change in landslide proportions in November 2008"

you think that was a landslide?

stick around

July 29, 2009 3:39 PM  
Anonymous Aunt Bea said...

For sure, SybilLucy.

President Huckabee and I will be waiting with bated breath!

July 29, 2009 4:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's funny

you think Republicans are history and Priya doesn't want to come here because there are so many Republicans

you guys are going to have a complete mental breakdown in November 2010

btw, you that Obama policy of opening a dialogue with our enemies?

it's been such a disaster that it may threaten to start a couple of wars

Iran and North Korea, whose leaders need to portray the U.S. as belligerent to maintain power, have responded to conciliatory gestures with acts so hostile that we may be forced to take action

way to go, Barry O

July 29, 2009 5:18 PM  

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